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Cradle Robber?
Thanks for this. I need a few bottles of Jamet for the intermediate term. This looks like one to consider.
Opened one last fall. These are showing great young.
There were some discussions about Chave in another thread. Curious if people trying the newer vintages of Jamet have noticed any changes
Would be curious to hear from others who have had more older bottles.
My understanding is that:
Climate change is as real for JP as anyone else
In the 80 and 90s, there was less acreage and more young vines. Now, there are more options of terroir to draw from and more mature vines.
The winemaking is more the same (whole-cluster, modest new oak, long élevage, gentle extraction, and blended parcels), than different, but there are: slightly more once or twice used barrels, more temp control at fermentation, and less racking.
In 2013, Jean-Paul and his brother Jean-Luc split. Which also split the land (changing the ingredients avail for blending). It was not congenial and I’ve seen mixed narratives on who did what, etc.
I expected not to like the 2020 given my understanding of the vintage. JP apparently said that 18,19,20 boarded on excessive, but though I would prefer older Jamets given the choice, it is my fav young cote rotie to date.
“This was the opposite experience of the Chave (04). It completely blasted and I think was great for the end. I knew I was going to go Chave v Jamet and debated the vintage here a lot. Even though 2020 is so young, I’ve seen lots of notes about how it’s still open and ultimately decided this would be a fascinating contrast. 2020 is def a return to the classic profile. This is a bomb of black olive and minerals. Pepper follows up and then the fruit. I found this less in the bqq/smoke camp the Guigal wines. This feels like an old school titan being chiseled from the rockface. Note to check back in maybe 5yrs?”
I think newer Jamet vintages are great. Atleast young so far. The few vintages I’ve tasted has been pretty damn good. 2016 is one of the best young Syrah’s I’ve tasted.
Based on what I’ve tasted… 2010>2012>2011>2015/16>2019>2013 (variable)>2018>2017>2014
Had the 2011 a month ago. I agree that it is a beauty! However 2016 just at release was such a perfect young wine that I rate that experience above it personally.
Really happy to hear so many positives on the 2020. I have two bottles, maybe it is time to take one for a spin.
I also had the 2021 very young. Probably the most recent vintage where it didn’t hit as hard out of the gate as the more solar vintages and where it was harder to read (still good). Anyone had it recently?
Just picked up a bottle yesterday at the winery. Will pop it open sometime over the next week. They likened the ‘21 and ‘24 to more “classical” vintages. Tasted the ‘23 as a PnP - great nose but palate was pretty tight. Would have love to see it progress over a couple hours.
Also consider the 21, which is more classic Jamet.
I tasted it in March, jotted this note to myself: dark garnet medium full body, this is the jamet nose, more vegetal, loamy, medium rich fruit, good intensity, darker raspberry, some nice subtle spice, moderate fairly smooth tannins, less chalky and grippy than the 22, nice balance, quite a nice long finish, really nice.
Anyone taste '10 Jamet Cote-Rotie lately?
What’s cellar door these days?
85 euros 
Had it out of a 375ml. Noted more clove this time around.
Who or What is “JP”?
Jean-Paul I think
As someone holding '20, '19, '16, and '14, this is a bit of a 
to read. What about the 2014 did you dislike? What did you enjoy about the '20?
S***. I meant to start it off with '10 and not '20. I have not had '10. I corrected my OP.
I think '14 was the oddest vintage of Jamet I’ve ever had. My TN from 2022 on CT:
Saturday, February 5, 2022 - A bit of enigma. Opened to generous fruit, very high acidity, but balanced out/delicious with smokiness, black pepper and maybe green pepper complexity. Medium bodied. And then a few hours later this was shut down hard tart acidity dominating the wine… an hour later yielding no difference. Seems a wine with volatile drinking windows that may explain the 90-95 CT points here. At its peak for me this was showing flashes of 94, at the worst this was an 89-90. I’d score it in the middle 92..