TN: 2014 Roses de Jeanne / Cédric Bouchard Champagne Blanc de Noirs Côte de Val Vilaine

[Daniel_Kim]

Different. Better young. Doesnt require age to be delicious.

[CFu]

My favorite so far has been the Ursules, seems like a step up from the Val Vilaine. But I’ve enjoyed both and have been buying across the range. Would be great to do a horizontal at some point, I’ve never had the opportunity to to a side-by-side tasting.

Somehow I missed the ‘13s though .

Agreed. Ursules is a better wine. We’ve done the side by side the last few vintages.

Ursules $ pushes into Dom, almost NV Krug territory. That good? Serious question.

I have an irrational love for cedric bouchard so I am the wrong person to ask.

[R_Frankel]

My favorite so far has been the Ursules, seems like a step up from the Val Vilaine. But I’ve enjoyed both and have been buying across the range. Would be great to do a horizontal at some point, I’ve never had the opportunity to to a side-by-side tasting.

Somehow I missed the ‘13s though .

Agreed. Ursules is a better wine. We’ve done the side by side the last few vintages.

Ursules $ pushes into Dom, almost NV Krug territory. That good? Serious question.

At $150-$160, sure, I’d buy other things. But the Ursules has a lot more varied pricing in the market than Dom or Krug. At $130 it’s iffy but I picked up a bunch of the ‘14 locally in Nor Cal for $89, no brainer at that price.

[Dennis_Atick]

Different. Better young. Doesnt require age to be delicious.

This I get. Yes.

At $150-$160, sure, I’d buy other things. But the Ursules has a lot more varied pricing in the market than Dom or Krug. At $130 it’s iffy but I picked up a bunch of the ‘14 locally in Nor Cal for $89, no brainer at that price.

Right. I’m seeing it more like $130ish these days, and that’s not far from what I just paid for '08 Dom. And I 'm not irrational, like some people

Thanks for the feedback guys.

[William_Kelley]

My favorite so far has been the Ursules, seems like a step up from the Val Vilaine. But I’ve enjoyed both and have been buying across the range. Would be great to do a horizontal at some point, I’ve never had the opportunity to to a side-by-side tasting.

Somehow I missed the ‘13s though .

Agreed. Ursules is a better wine. We’ve done the side by side the last few vintages.

Ursules $ pushes into Dom, almost NV Krug territory. That good? Serious question.

For me, absolutely; but you’re comparing chalk and cheese.

[Claus_Jeppesen]

Agreed. Ursules is a better wine. We’ve done the side by side the last few vintages.

Ursules $ pushes into Dom, almost NV Krug territory. That good? Serious question.

For me, absolutely; but you’re comparing chalk and cheese.

For me too
2014 Ursules is awesome. Hard to find better Champagne

[Rob_S1]

Agree with the sentiment on the thread that the more limited wines really aren’t worth it. I haven’t had all of them, but I’ve had a couple (Bechalin and Haute-Lemble), and while they were good, they were not better than the Val Vilaine.

Agreed. But regardless of QPR, none of his bottles last long in my cellar. I could drink a bottle a night of the stuff if it wouldn’t make me a broke, raging alcoholic…

[Dennis_Atick]

Ursules $ pushes into Dom, almost NV Krug territory. That good? Serious question.

For me, absolutely; but you’re comparing chalk and cheese.

For me too
2014 Ursules is awesome. Hard to find better Champagne

Well, I guess you guys are gonna make me do it. Thanks a lot.

[Neal.Mollen]

For me, absolutely; but you’re comparing chalk and cheese.

For me too
2014 Ursules is awesome. Hard to find better Champagne

Well, I guess you guys are gonna make me do it. Thanks a lot.

[Brian_S_t_o_t_t_e_r]

As much as I love Val Vilaine, I’m still kicking myself for only buying one bottle of La Boloree last year.

[Daniel_Kim]

Different. Better young. Doesnt require age to be delicious.

This I get. Yes.

At $150-$160, sure, I’d buy other things. But the Ursules has a lot more varied pricing in the market than Dom or Krug. At $130 it’s iffy but I picked up a bunch of the ‘14 locally in Nor Cal for $89, no brainer at that price.

Right. I’m seeing it more like $130ish these days, and that’s not far from what I just paid for '08 Dom. And I 'm not irrational, like some people

Thanks for the feedback guys.

It can be found sub $90 at which it’s one of the best QPRs around.

Just got the 13 Ursules for $85.

[Robert_M_yers]

Thoughts on if Bouchard did well with the 17 Val Vilaine? I’m assuming so, but thought I’d throw it out there.

[William_Kelley]

Thoughts on if Bouchard did well with the 17 Val Vilaine? I’m assuming so, but thought I’d throw it out there.

When I visited last month, we only went as recent as 16 Val Vilaine, which is superb. But in general, I think if Cédric bottles it, it’s worth drinking. He is absolutely uncompromising at harvest time, and will sometimes even leave ostensibly perfect fruit on the vine if his intuition tells him it isn’t interesting.

[Russ_Williams]

Thoughts on if Bouchard did well with the 17 Val Vilaine? I’m assuming so, but thought I’d throw it out there.

When I visited last month, we only went as recent as 16 Val Vilaine, which is superb. But in general, I think if Cédric bottles it, it’s worth drinking. He is absolutely uncompromising at harvest time, and will sometimes even leave ostensibly perfect fruit on the vine if his intuition tells him it isn’t interesting.

This!!