TN- 2008 Terry Theise portfolio- 49 notes

Tom_Reddick · July 1, 2009, 5:59am

Adios muchachos

Lyle_Fass · July 1, 2009, 1:33pm

Great notes. Christoffel is a once a decade hit it out of the park type producer. Last time was 2001. He does produce out of the ballpark bottlings in certain vintages but across the board he is once a decade. Excited to try these. Missed the TT tasting in NYC.

Max_Marinucci · July 1, 2009, 3:12pm

Welcome to WB Tom! Thanks for the notes.

Daniel_Posner · July 1, 2009, 3:21pm

You get the award for most useful first post!

And Max gives you this…

David_Bu3ker · July 1, 2009, 4:58pm

Christoffel is better than once every 10 years IMO. There’s some amazing 2002s across the range, and even my acid hound palate really loves a few of the 2007s. 2003-2005 was kind of tough, and 2006 is an idiosyncratic vintage.

Tom_Reddick · July 1, 2009, 5:42pm

Sayonara

David_Bu3ker · July 1, 2009, 5:47pm

I would elaborate but I can’t other than to say that I did not like the 2003 Christoffels when they came out, and so did not buy any. I have tasted a few of them since & still find them heavy. Now I have not had the higher level auslesen (**, ***, etc) since 2004, so I cannot comment there, and I have found that the upper tier wines are the best from 2003 for my palate.

G_Greenbaum · July 1, 2009, 6:35pm

Great notes. I was at the LA tasting yesterday. I had no idea how brutal it is tasting young German Riesling. My palate was shot quickly. I took no detailed notes, but I will say that I was most impressed with Nikolaihof. The '08 GV Hefeabzurg was killer and really benefits from extended lees contact. The star was the '93 GV Vinotk which saw 15 yrs in foudor. Outlandish in all respects but with some sort of elegance and balance. Just not sure who’s buying it at it’s price. Also liked the Sattler reds.

Bob_Kaminski · July 1, 2009, 6:44pm

Peter Tryba Terry Theise in-store tasting - WINE TALK - WineBerserkers has some notes to come also.

No Champers I guess.

G_Greenbaum · July 1, 2009, 7:30pm

Champagne is in the fall.

Douglass_Smith · July 1, 2009, 7:49pm

The event did include Champagne; not sure if it was imported by Theise or by Skurnik. At any rate I have TNs on a few of the ones at the event HERE.

Tom_Reddick · July 1, 2009, 8:09pm

Buh-bye

G_Greenbaum · July 1, 2009, 8:56pm

Tom Reddick:

G. Greenbaum:

Great notes. I was at the LA tasting yesterday. I had no idea how brutal it is tasting young German Riesling. My palate was shot quickly. I took no detailed notes, but I will say that I was most impressed with Nikolaihof. The '08 GV Hefeabzurg was killer and really benefits from extended lees contact. The star was the '93 GV Vinotk which saw 15 yrs in foudor. Outlandish in all respects but with some sort of elegance and balance. Just not sure who’s buying it at it’s price. Also liked the Sattler reds.

It is not usually so hard- these were tough wines. My palate was shot too by the time it was over. Kurt Darting were the last wines I tasted.

Kicking myself for not making the Nikolaihof table. There just was not time.

I did not get his name, but the tall dark haired guy from Nikolaihof was at the Austin tasting in lederhosen and brand new brown Lucchese cowboy boots. Was he sporting them in LA too? It was quite an appealing distraction I must say…

He sure was. Also sporting a Wilco T-shirt, so we became instant pals. They had just seen them at the Greek in Berkeley (a great venue). I saw them at the Wiltern the Tue before. His buddy was the one talking up the wines though.

Lyle_Fass · July 1, 2009, 9:08pm

I liked very much Christoffel in 2005, 2002 as well but the 2001 Christoffel’s rank with the '99 DRC’s, the '02 Pepiere’s, '00 Dauvissat’s, etc as legendary collections and Christoffel can do that with amazing consistency about once every ten years since I have been tasting. Pissed I miss the '08’s.

Bob_Kaminski · July 1, 2009, 9:22pm

Thanks. I have the 02 Paradoxe that I have yet to try.

David_Bu3ker · July 1, 2009, 10:46pm

Well if you’re going to rank them that high then the comment makes a lot more sense to me. I’m not sure I could hold '01 Christoffel to '99 DRC (and I haven’t even tasted RC or La Tache), but the wines were and are amazing.

James_Wright · July 1, 2009, 10:51pm

the couple Christoffel 08s I tasted were a bit loose around the edges, and not among the best wines I saw at Terry’s show in NYC

as for Theise in gen—

here’s the report on selected preferentials…

and Lyle dear, you get about 20 penmanship penalty points for writing “amazing consistency about once every ten years…”

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Jack_Bulkin · July 1, 2009, 10:53pm

Tom, I hadn’t noticed you on the Board before. Welcome.
Best, Jack

Lyle_Fass · July 2, 2009, 9:12pm

James Wright:

Lyle Fass:

I liked very much Christoffel in 2005, 2002 as well but the 2001 Christoffel’s rank with the '99 DRC’s, the '02 Pepiere’s, '00 Dauvissat’s, etc as legendary collections and Christoffel can do that with amazing consistency about once every ten years since I have been tasting. Pissed I miss the '08’s.

the couple Christoffel 08s I tasted were a bit loose around the edges, and not among the best wines I saw at Terry’s show in NYC

as for Theise in gen—

here’s the report on selected preferentials…

and Lyle dear, you get about 20 penmanship penalty points for writing “amazing consistency about once every ten years…”

Wine ~ Wein ~ Vino ~ Vin: a few favourites from the Terry Theise tasting..." onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I will taste them eventually and make judgement.

You gotta love my “lyleisms” . . . almost as good as Yogiisms!

Lyle_Fass · July 2, 2009, 9:14pm

I rank them very high. I am in love with the '01 Christoffel’s. Obviosuly they are not better than 99 rc or lt but as a collection in the same league as every one is a showstopper. '01 Ramonet comes to mind as does '05 Baudry or '88 Joguet or '97 Hirtzberger etc.