I know…and I hope to get there this Spring.
Bill and Bob, you"re points are right on the money. 99 amd 01 Vintage are so so much better than 2000. The last 4/5 bottles that I’ve drank from 00 have me thinking the wines are drinking well now but there wasn’t one bottle that I thought could go another 5 years at the same level as they started losing steam pretty quickly. The 99s and the 01s just seem to be exploding even with long decant times and drank over a 2 and even 3 day period. Drank an 01 Le Vigne and what started out soft and elegant turned into a beast in a good way over several hours. The wine just kept putting weight on while retaining what I love about Nebbiolo. One of the best bottles of Barolo I’ve had in years and reaffirms why Nebbiolo is truly worth the tariff and is IMO dollar for dollar the best wines for the money on the planet.
Carl, I would agree that the 1985 CF probably is (or was) the third strongest ever, but with the exception of a very few wines, the Monfortino being a distant first among them, I do not view 1985 as the particularly strong or long-lived vintage thst it was once though to be. I, too, would put it ahead of the Bartolo, Monprivato and all of Giacosa’s white labels anyway, but that puts it atop very weak competition rather than making it a great wine in its own right. (In its prime, I found the 1985 Sandrone CB to be better than the above-mentioned wines and on a par with the CF.) I enjoyed the 1985s earlier on, but it is a medium-term vintage, many of whose wines have faded or are fading after only 30 years. Like the 1990s, I drank up (save the Monfortino, which is fully mature and drinking beautifully now), and I am glad that I did so.
Bob, I was speaking broadly about the 3 vintages and recapping reviewer consensus (both always dangerous!), rather than comparing all of the mentioned wines in all three vintages, so no, I am not saying that the 2000 CF is better than the 2001 (I have not had the 2000 CF, in fact), nor I am I trying to make a case for 2000 being a great vintage, either. I personally bought more 1999s and 2001s than 2000s, but I am content not to have swung for the fences in any of those three. I do not see the consistency and across-the-board high quality in any of them that defines the greatest Nebbiolo vintages. Instead, I see a relatively few potentially great wines over the three vintages. The structure of the best 1999s would seem to offer the most promise to me, especially if, as Tom indicated, ripeness emerges. I think that the other two vintages are likely to offer a lot of early-to mid-term drinking, broadly so for the 2000s but with the jury still out on 2001, which may have also produced wines not named Monfortino or Le Rocche Riserva (Ca d’ Morissio, too?) whose longevities may pleasantly surprise us. The 2001 Sandrone CB may well be a long-haul wine in a way in which his 1990 and intervening efforts never were.
Tom, many like CF better than I do, and there is no shame in that! There is no question that, until recently anyway, like Bartolo and Monprivato, CF offered great value in traditional Barolo. For me, it is not that CF is not a good wine, but rather, that I like others better. For the same reason, I collect and enjoy the three mentioned above, as well as wines like G. Rinaldi Brunate-Le Coste and various Vietti bottlings, but just not in the quantities that I collect some others. Unfortunately, rather than steadfastly seeking value, I squandered my wine dollars (and lire and Euros) chasing old Giacosas and Monfortino, the odd magnum of 1989 Gran Bussia or Sandrone CB and, God save my soul, even Burgundy, Bordeaux and Rhone wines. (I even got carried away and started backfilling the likes of Cavallotto, Cappellano and Massolino Rionda because Bill B insisted thst I must.)
As to wine urban myths, allow me to kill three birds with one stone. I am relatively certain that it was Mauro Mascarello, speaking of what caused him to decide not to bottle his Monprivato Ca d’ Morissio, who invoked the “no noticeable difference” test. The reason thst there is no 1989 Monfortino is…hail. Hail ravaged the vineyard, and left only enough juice for around 4,000 bottles of Cascina Francia, which along with high quality, explains why 1989 CF is so expensive and so hard to find. (That, plus the quantity that people on this thread have stockpiled and already consumed!) The third dead bird is that the 1999 Giacosa Le Rocche white label is actually red label juice, but that Giacosa elected not to wait and bottle it as a riserva because he needed the money. (Brother Thompson of Mount Nebbiolo recently republished this myth for the umpteenth time on the Vinous board.) The truth is that Giacosa did not view the wine as riserva quality, perhaps in error, and perhaps influenced by the fact that his other 1999 wines in both zones were not up to highest Giacosa snuff. However, the truth is that Tanzer asked Il Maestro why he chose not to bottle the 1999 Le Rocche as a riserva, and,mas Steve made clear, Bruno “deadpanned” that he needed the money. One has to understand Il Maestro’s wry Piemontese wit, and also the fact that Bruno probably still has 9 of every 10 Euros (historically lire!) that he ever made in classic Piemontese fashion, to get the joke. In any event, many of us are enjoying perhaps his best post-1978 white label at bargain prices.
Thomas, I promise you that only sub-50-degree storage and no bad treatment along the way would explain 1990 SSR at its peak today. (I have taken to 40-degree storage on some of my oldest and rarest bottles as well, to excellent effect.) Not to say that the wine is shot; far from it. Just past its peak under ordinary conditions. Both my 1971 and 1978 SSRSs are in better shape.
And finally, a small point on Peter’s bottle: I did not understand him to be saying that the wine is inherently acidic, because, as you say, 1990 was an uncharacteristically low-acid vintage. I understood him to say thst the wine reached a point where the acid dominated the fruit and other elements of the wine, which had faded in the interim. I suggest that that phenomenon is not vintage-specific, but rather, endemic to many old wines. That does not settle the issue of the quality of Peter’s bottle versus those that you have tried, but seeks only clarification…