So dumb question because I know the comment that started all this was stupid, but I am curious how many top 2005 Bordeaux are in their drinking window right now? Wasn’t that a very structured vintage?
Seems like many here are holding on to these because they still aren’t ready.
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Certain wines have somewhat surprisingly started to open and drink well.
Data points from this summer are Leoville Poyferre and Gruaud. La Louviere as well.
2005 L’Evangile was distinguishing in December. Modern mess.
I still wouldn’t touch something like Latour and Montrose if you have them. I’m guessing for those that there is no world in which waiting another 5-50 years isn’t to their benefit, but I don’t recall trying either since around release.
And 2005 Burgundy has also turned a corner in the last year or so. But that’s a different question.
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The thing is, I searched both IG and TT. That account was deleted or never existed.
If that account did exist, they likely deleted it from getting schooled for posting something that insanely dumb.
That video does have some insanely dumb comments though when searched. It’s also been re-posted from a few different accounts as well. /shrug
Leoville Barton on Friday: not ready
Dang. Can’t say I’m completely surprised though. That vintage has always been a bit of a beast
That would roughly mean you hold more than half the bottles you buy until age 25? And really, since undoubtedly some decent number of bottles are consumed first few years, probably both (a) well over half the bottles are held past age 25 and (b) many of them are much older, like 40-50+ years old.
Not sure even Francois Audouze has that high a percentage.
Well, he was expressing shock that the percentage was that low so I was crafting an example to fit. If he had been shocked he had so many bottles that old, I’d not have suggested a condition of drinking the average bottle at 25 years of age. As stated above, stated conclusion follows only from stated conditions.
That said, as long as we’re having fun with wine cellar math, the number of bottles drunk young (depending on how young) will barely decrease the percentage of your cellar inventory that is over 20, while more significantly decreasing the average age of wines you open. E.g., if you buy 100 bottles per year on release (assume release means 2 years after vintage) and drink 100 bottles per year at 25 years of age (from the vintage), you have 2300 bottles in your cellar and 600 of them are 20 or over, or 26.1%, and the average age of a bottle you drink is 25 years.
But if you buy 100 bottles per year on release and drink 20 per year at age 3 and 80 per year at 25, you have 1860 bottles in your cellar, and 480 of them are 20 or over, or 25.8%, while the average age of the bottles at consumption is 20.6. The young bottles substantially drop the average age of your consumed bottles, but don’t make up enough of the total inventory (since they don’t stay in the cellar long) to budge the percentage of 20+ year old wines very much.
Of course, every change in the permutations will bring a different answer.
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There’s a thread on that:
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Ive really been enjoying middle range 1996s over the last year, LB, Batailley, cantemerle. Think the 2000s still need more time, and the 2005s ive generally not tried.
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