The Projects - Cellar Style

WINE TALK
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Why are you doing that if we have the wine fridge?

Uh…the fridge is full [shock.gif] [blush2.gif]

Room is in the basement, below grade on the 3 already finished walls (half way up on the left side.) Was originally finished out to be a theater room. 4" of rigid insulation all around plus sound deadening, plus 5/8 inch drywall. Pretty well insulated and pretty well segregated from any heat sources. Well, I will need to open up the wall on the left to vent the Galli Kenmore special into a utility room.

Cellar portion will be about 13’ wide, 8’ deep and 8’ tall.

With a wee bit of rearranging, the 4 lights in the back will be in the cellar, plus the one circuit in the middle of the room will all be on together. That way I’ll know if the lights are on in the cellar.

Flooring and the new front wall will be faced in either pine or walnut, as that is what I have on hand.

Budget? About $1000, including an oversized A/C unit. That is, obviously, before any racking! That will come over time.

Wish me luck!

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That is indeed a very exciting project. And just think, the best part is when you start filling it!

Are you planning on having a table/chairs setup for tastings? That plus some cool art would make for a fantastic hangout.

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Awesome! A fantastic hang-out is right! You got skills.

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Check out Gold’s book for great information on the topic of building wine cellars.
Do you have a vapor barrier behind the drywall?

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Where’s that jealous emoticon when I need it!!! [welldone.gif]

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Good luck…and don’t forget the vapor barrier as jcgeorge stated.

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Cool! Is the safe to keep the wife from accidently opening the real expensive wines [whistle.gif]

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My wine closet project is coming up. I have run out of room, and found a buyer for the wine fridge to offset some of the cost.

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Hopefully will take a while to fill it up!

Door will be as far to the left as possible, but to the right of the safe. I’ll probably have some sort of dry bar on the right hand side as storage is at a premium. Won’t worry too much about tables and chairs until I get the tile and carpet down (and about a billion other honey do’s). I already have the tile, but doubt I’ll get that far until after the upcoming busy season.

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Don’t tell anyone, but I redid that room…twice! to get it the way I wanted it. And, well, just changed it again, but at least I didn’t have to tear down the walls this time.

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Haven’t read his book but there is quite a bit of his info available online.

And yes, all of the walls have vapor barriers. Only real “weak” spot is that there’s only 9" or so of insulation in the ceiling.

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Wine’s cheap until you factor in that you only get to enjoy it once. She can have the wine.

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Best of luck with your project. I’m hoping I’ve spent more time planning and re-planning than it actually takes me to build the thing!

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Decided that before I was all boxed in I’d add a faucet to the outside. That meant that I had to cut out about 1.5 x 2.5 ft of the ceiling, run new pipe, etc. Here it is after the patch, primer and a first coat of paint.

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Final coat of paint tonight. Tomorrow will be a shopping trip to get the door and framing materials. Home Despot, here I come.

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Tonight was framing!

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Tonight was roughing in the electrical. Thank God tomorrow night’s drinking night [truce.gif]

Toughest part was rough planning on what to do outside the cellar. If cabinets, then the outlet goes up above the counter. No cabinets, down low. Looks like I’ll be building a couple of tables.

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One of the hardest things to decide on was what to do with the heater that sits in the middle of one wall in the room.

Smaller cellar? Well, using Galli’s Mighty Kenmore means I need to vent. Could have done a kink in the wall, but that seemed to add cost and one more corner of minimal insulation.

So, decided I was going to seal up the heater.

2 layers of reflective bubble wrap, 2 inches of batt insulation all surrounded by 2 inch rigid insulation. Rigid insulation is sealed up on the inside by metallic tape. All joints then have foam safe caulking. The same caulk is used to seal up the rigid insulation to the cement, wall and 2x6 framing.

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Got the first layer of insulation in and all sealed up. 2" Rigid insulation is R13. Will have an air space and then an internal second layer of rigid insulation. Did the external layer first so I could make sure it was sealed up like a tank, even around the electrical outlets.

A little perspective…36" door. Total room width is barely over 157".

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Racking for 1054 Bottles, using part of my existing stash of Walnut.

CutList Plus is an extremely handy and easy to use program that helps optimize lumber and sheet goods usage. Now “all” I have to do is sort the stacks and enter the real numbers of boards at each width. The program will let me know the most efficient boards to use.

Just to get it in and determine if I’d have enough to do the flooring too, I figured I have about 225 boards, all 6’ long, averaging 5" in width. The below looks like it will use about 87 of those boards. That means I should have enough to do walnut flooring inside and outside of the room. [shock.gif]

It also means that I have to mill and install the flooring before I even get started on the racks! [truce.gif] I may have to wait until after tax season to get to the racks. [cry.gif]

  • Part # Description Copies Thick Width Length Material Type Material Name
    1 Ladder Uprights-Exterior 4 3/4" 2" 72" Dimensioned Lumber Walnut
    2 Ladder Uprights-Interior 60 3/4" 2" 23" Dimensioned Lumber Walnut
    3 Bottle Supports-On Exterior Uprights (17 per End) 34 3/4" 3/4" 23" Dimensioned Lumber Walnut
    4 Bottle Supports-On Interior Uprights (17 per Side, 30 Uprights) 120 3/4" 3/4" 23" Dimensioned Lumber Walnut
    5 Bottle Supports-On Interior Uprights (17 per Side, 30 Uprights) 900 3/4" 3/4" 23" Dimensioned Lumber Walnut
    6 Front Bottom Cross Brace-Ends 2 3/4" 2" 65" Dimensioned Lumber Walnut
    7 Front Bottom Cross Brace-Center 1 3/4" 2" 25" Dimensioned Lumber Walnut
    8 Front and Back Upright Edge Trim 4 3/4" 1" 72" Dimensioned Lumber Walnut
    9 Back Cross Braces-Ends (Top and Bottom) 4 3/4" 2" 65" Dimensioned Lumber Walnut
    10 Back Cross Braces-Center (Top and Bottom) 2 3/4" 2" 25" Dimensioned Lumber Walnut