The Judgment of NY: Germany v. Finger Lakes Riesling Dinner at Noreetuh

I asked the same as it is the best I have ever had from the Finger Lakes. @Kelby_James_Russell said the Limestone Springs was the wine they wanted to show.

Yea, exactly. Weird. Thanks, Robert.

@Robert_Dentice is correct; for a winery like Ravines I went to them directly, gave them the rundown of the event, and asked them for the wine they thought would best represent themselves. For Ravines I think Limestone Springs is now very much their ‘home estate’ and they want to help get the word out about that.

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I was lucky enough to purchase some of the Limestone Riesling when I was last in the FLX and it was great, probably my favorite Riesling from the region so far, I have a lot more to explore and taste though.

Very cool! Most of the Riesling I buy is FLX so no surprised to me it hangs with the big boys in the old world on a quality level.

It seems odd that the results from the blind tasting are not listed in this thread. One has to click on a link and scroll down an article. The top eight wines are as follows:

  1. 2018 Graacher Himmelreich Kabinett, Willi Schaefer (Mosel)
  2. 2022 Krettnacher Euchariusberg Kabinett Alte Reben “Gisela,” Hofgut Falkenstein (Mosel)
  3. 2021 Estate Dry Riesling, Hillock & Hobbs (Finger Lakes)
  4. 2024 Margrit Dry, Dr. Konstantin Frank (Finger Lakes)
  5. 2023 Halenberg GG, Emrich-Schönleber (Nahe)
  6. 2023 Riesling RR, Keller (Rheinhessen)
  7. 2016 SanSan, Kemmeter Wines (Finger Lakes)
  8. 2023 The Knoll, Lahoma Vineyard, Apollo’s Praise (Finger Lakes)
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Is the ‘24 vintage correct on the Dr Frank Margrit? The 2021 vintage is the most recent one showing up on their website and on CellarTracker.

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2024 is correct! The 2021 is sold out from what I understand, and I’m not even sure they made it in the extremely short vintages of 2022 (drought) and 2023 (frost).

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@Lars_Carlberg the reason why I did not post the scores is that we were explicitly told by Jin that he was not going to give out the scores because the methodology was not precise. There were two wines served, there was a mixture of ages and sweetness levels and the majority of us were passionate wine lovers but not really professional reviewers. And the setting was really not conducive to serious evaluation. I saw scores in the low 80s and high 90s, the scores were all over the map. There was no real instruction. And I don’t think he wanted to release the scores because Stuart will be writing an article on the tasting. It will be interesting to see his scores.

In the end the biggest take away was how well the Finger Lakes wines showed against some formidable competition and how far they have come. It has motivated me to visit the region and to try more wines. All in all it was a very successful tasting.

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I’m sure if the tasting was run again under the exact same conditions, that top 8 list would turn out significantly different. Excited to read Stuart’s article though!

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This I think is exactly correct, both from Jin’s perspective and as a fair representation of the overall takeaway from the evening. As Robert noted, the scoring was all over the place, with some people using the ‘standard’ 100 point scale (roughly from 80-100), some using all 100 points available to them, some only scoring by increments of 10, etc.

What I’m most grateful for is that the real ‘meat’ of the dinner was the conversations the wines sparked, and perhaps a bit of the fun of trying to guess where each wine came from. For a repeat, those are the real aspects to make sure we keep in focus.

And agreed with you @Kevin.Moses - if we repeated the same tasting a night later, the order likely would have come out quite different. Maybe the top or bottom would be about the same, but the takeaway for the remainder is that it was just a bunch of really good wines that could go any which way.