Ha!!!
omg he took more naps in a day than an infant or dog!
Do you know any?
It certainly wasnât the dudes playing whiffleball
I love this and I love the relationships that WB has fostered.
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Donât you follow the cycling thread in the Asylum? There has never been a sprint in history that Owlman has not claimed. Whether he won it or not, he will still claim it.
He sent me this pic over the weekend and my counter was, âWhat I see is the guy in the kayak attempting to put his paddle in the water to continue his forward progress, and you hindering that attempt. You clearly have not maintained your line and are therefore disqualified and relegated to last place. Kayak wins.â
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So we had three bottles of Ponsot, 2002, 05 and 08. Only the 2005 was drinkable, the others had turned foul. Anyone know what kind of closure this is, none of us had ever seen it before, and it was rather bizarre looking.
We had three bad Burgs and one that was suspect. Not a great track record for burgs this weekend.
Itâs an ArdeaSeal. FWIW, Iâve had a couple of 2008 Ponsot Charmes-Chambertins that have run from disappointing to undrinkable.
Perhaps it was Rudyâs revenge.
It was actually the 2002 that was drinkable and it was lovely.
Sorry, had them backwards. Overall, I just thought it was terribly disappointing. Two of my burgundies were disappointing as well, although one was actually flawed, the 2014 Domaine Château De La Tour Clos Vougeot Vieilles Vignes was terribly stewed.
It was a frustrating go of things from a Burg perspective, as I think weâd all hoped for a fun comparison of three Ponsot GCs. That only one presented anything decent was a mammoth letdown. Then throw in a dead 2014. Across basically all other bottles of wine we caught one clearly corked bottle, the 1990 Gruaud Larose and everything else was well conditioned. And the older Bordeaux were in great shape. It was not a big win Burgundy, though gosh the ones that were on smelled so pretty.
I remain a firm believer that the highest highs in Burgundy are the highest highs in wine. But it seems a more fickle beast than Bordeaux.
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A related comment that I just made on our text thread. I am certainly no expert in burgundy, but over 30 years of drinking fine wines, I actually have had quite a lot of them. I will acknowledge some of them can hit some super high highs, like the 1980 DRC we had in Highlands back in February, and many that I have had at Bernâs with Keith Levenberg and Charlie Carnes. From my perspective and history, and the law of averages, Bordeaux absolutely smokes Burgundy. From the top to the bottom, beyond just being eminently more affordable these days, they are higher quality, more consistent, more durable, and more predictable. This weekend was yet another example of that point to me, our Birdeaux night smoked the burgundies. In fact, the four main Bordeaux we served, all of them were far superior to any of the burgundies that I had this weekend. I will say, the 1998 Verset was in that same stratosphere with the Bordeaux. That was an extraordinary bottle of wine. I think our burgundy showing in February at Highlands was far superior, that was a fantastic series of burgundies that we had. As were the Rayas wines.
For whatever it is worth, I feel the same about Italian wines. I am more often disappointed with them than anything else, Unless we are talking basic Chianti, which generally are pleasant. My miss rate on mature Italian wines is incredibly high, including two recent bottles of 1982 Produttori that were skunked. One of recent memory that was pretty exceptional was the Gran Bussia Reserva that lTodd popped.
I have a good selection of vintages of this wine 2008-2019, have tried a few including this one, and follow the notes in CT. This strikes me as more likely a bad bottle, either storage or the closure, and not a generally problematic wine. These are pretty old-school and need lots of time, maybe like LLC, and 12 years from the vintage especially one like 2014 is not the best time to enjoy these.
Yeah, no doubt it was a flawed bottle, definitely bad. I thought we were clear about that. Quite a shame as well, I had just bought the bottle from a trusted commerce corner source. The 1990 GL rose from a popular retailer talked about a lot on this website as well. Just goes to show the challenges, sometimes, of backfilling.
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Ah, makes sense. I was associating that with the Ponsot which may be something more general.
idk we opened 25 bottles of burgundy this past weekend and we had maybe 1-2 bottles that didnât show the best, and none were flawed. Most were stunning. Not sure Iâd consider it all that fickle, but then again most of the bottles were from my cellar and had excellent provenance. The 2010 ponsot CDLR we opened showed reasonably well, just was in a flight with two transcendent wines. The dujac wasnt pristine but some people liked it.
While I actually loved our 82 bordeaux flight perhaps the most of the flights we did this weekend, that was because it was a rare case for me in which all of the bordeaux showed incredibly well and were stunning. Most of the time when Iâve opened them theyâve been very good, but not ones I would want to spend all that much time with. The burgs weâve opened recently have mostly all showed well, with certainly far higher than 90% success rate.
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