I would not call it an oaky mess. I generally prefer closer to 20 years on Lytton and Geezer, which gives them plenty of time to integrate. This one is moving along… slowly.
Thanks. I’ll leave the rest of mine for another decade then.
Were both the Ridge Geyserville and Lytton Springs always made that way? I cut some of my wine baby teeth on those wines (and the Lytton Springs winery Zin) back in the mid-to-late 80s. I don’t recall ever thinking “this is a lot of oak” when drinking them, and we drank them fairly young. Then again, not sure I really understood and could readily identify the oak note back in those, for me, early days. ![]()
I suspect there’s more new oak now, but also tastes have changed, so maybe we just notice it more.
Had dinner with my Dad last night and he pulled this beauty from his cellar. No formal notes, but drinking incredibly well. Fully mature, but still lovely fruit and structure.
That’s the way to do it!
I don’t remember the ‘85 and ‘87 tasting like that, more red fruited and less extracted. But I was a newb back then and I think David is right, tastes have changed.
Back to the crypt, and this is showing very well. The Merlot was OK, but coming to the downslope. This is at peak with time to spare. Quite delicious in a deep red cherry vein.
Who signed it?
It was hard to read and my Dad’s memory is not perfect, but he believes it was Doug Shafer.
Or John Shafer.
There are some things my dad did not drink that I am happier to have. 2004 Bordeaux nears the top of the list, as it’s a classic and classy vintage. This bottle is drinking very well now, with plenty of time to spare. Luckily there is more.
Looks like John Shafer.


