Some random thoughts, mainly about alcohol

[Robert.A.Jr]

Double up for Priapism!

[Neal.Mollen]

No way. I’m purely by the hour. Until I am not.

At the tippy-top of the legal industry pyramid where Alfert practices, it is 100% premium billing by the hour, every waking hour. The $$ his clients pay for his time at the urinal could cover Victor’s rent.

[Chris_Seiber]

I find in general I drink sparkling wine slower than say a higher alcohol, lower acid non effervescent wine. Higher acid and effervescence leads to smaller sips and need for palate recovery in between possibly? Higher alcohol Zin ect is just more gulpable and the setting usually allows for that. They are cocktail wines and for me are often consumed as such. There is a place for all in my life but I’m also trending away as time goes on.

Good post. I think there are big differences in the ways, times, circumstances, and amounts people tend to drink different kinds of wines, which play a big (maybe the biggest?) role in the way we perceive their differing effects on us.

[Robert.A.Jr]

No way. I’m purely by the hour. Until I am not.

At the tippy-top of the legal industry pyramid where Alfert practices, it is 100% premium billing by the hour, every waking hour. The $$ his clients pay for his time at the urinal could cover Victor’s rent.

Ha. I’m so low country. We can only count to 24.

[David_Glasser]

No way. I’m purely by the hour. Until I am not.

At the tippy-top of the legal industry pyramid where Alfert practices, it is 100% premium billing by the hour, every waking hour. The $$ his clients pay for his time at the urinal could cover Victor’s rent.

Ha. I’m so low country. We can only count to 24.

Hey, 24 is more than you have fingers and toes, which should qualify you as worthy of those tippy-top rates.

[R_M_Kriete]

No way. I’m purely by the hour. Until I am not.

At the tippy-top of the legal industry pyramid where Alfert practices, it is 100% premium billing by the hour, every waking hour. The $$ his clients pay for his time at the urinal could cover Victor’s rent.

Waiting for the next debate to find out if legal services are a basic human right and if we should get them for free

[Chris_Foley]

Waay too political…

[GregT]

Waiting for the next debate to find out if legal services are a basic human right and if we should get them for free >

Already covered by the sixth amendment. Then clarified further by the fourteenth amendment and the SC in the Scottsboro Boys trial in 1932.

But it would be interesting to do a poll and see what people thought of it!

Using a sober control group and a randomized tipsy group, to keep this relevant to the OP!

[Howard_Cooper]

I’ve been marathon-watching Madmen. Did people drink like that in that era? Or any era? Wow.

Yes. For example, I have a couple of former clients who (now retired) who have had significant health issues caused by how much they drank over the years. And, I saw it when I was at lunch with them. If I had drunk at lunch like they did, I would have not billed any hours during the afternoon.

[Robert.A.Jr]

I rarely drink during the day, even on weekends. Even when I’m out on the boat or golfing. Mellows me too much. Seems to have a different effect during the evening. I could be part werewolf.

[jcoley3]

Alcohol is and ever was a poison … too much of it is not good for the health - period.

Help:

1. drink a lot of water in between your sips of wine - A LOT !
2. learn to spit … it´s almost no loss of taste and pleasure (almost), but will minimize the alc consumed
3. drink less wine generally

I don´t want to go so far as to put water into your wine but water in between and spitting will dfinitely help.

I always spit at tastings with many bottles - even at home. One can get used to it.

This is how I roll now. I’ve essentially given up swallowing alcohol. Feel worlds better for it. I still taste (and understand that I get a wee bit this way), but the difference in things like sleep, etc. is just too noticeable and the positive impact on my health has been considerable.

[Anton_D]

When I was a wee lad in school, I got to ‘shadow’ a group of professionals for a week. They went to lunch each day for a true three martini lunch. My first day, I tried to keep up. After lunch I couldn’t drive, passed out in the back seat of my car, and barfed into a grocery bag. Woke up hours later and got a ride home. I almost couldn’t work the next day.

Those guys took one look at me the next morning and spent the morning talking about what they were gonna serve me for lunch.

Then, they had another three martini lunch and I had 7-up.

It was brutal. I don’t know how they survived, let alone worked each afternoon.

Take home lesson: in the 1980’s don’t go in for cardiac care after lunch.

[L_e_o_F_r_o_k_i_c]

This is all fascinating.

Can the affected people tolerate one glass of Port?

What happens if you guys have one serving of 43% ABV Scotch?

In this non-linear idea, it would seem drinking one Scotch would be crushing you guys.

Do one martini or limoncello seem as bad as that glass of 14-15% glass of wine?

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Side drift, do you get stuffy noses with drinking wine? If so, does it seem to have a greater response to higher ABV wines?

I love old ports and Colheitas but they give me headaches, no problems with dry wines or Scotch. Same with dessert wines or any wine with residual sugar so I avoid them.

[Philip_G]

I rarely drink during the day, even on weekends. Even when I’m out on the boat or golfing. Mellows me too much. Seems to have a different effect during the evening. I could be part werewolf.

I’m the same and attribute it to age. An occasional glass with lunch on the weekends but anything more and I’m a zombie in a few hours and the rest of the day is shot.

[Richard_Albert]

We started eating dinner earlier, hence wine with dinner is finished earlier. I stopped drinking alcohol after dinner as well, so bottles are not being finished as frequently.

We have also gravitated toward lower ABV wines which probably has benefited my sleep as well.

I am reconsidering my cellar contents via a health yardstick which is sobering/disappointing, something never anticipated during its assemblage while I was still invincible. Major ouch! On the brighter, my cellar will be lasting longer with wider choices and with no additional purchases!

[Matt_Fleming]

Interesting thread. I read most of the posts and didn’t notice a reference to one possible source to the original complaint: blood pressure. If you are experiencing headaches after eating and drinking, hypertension might be a cause. Even for those of you who think your are fit, but especially if you’re aren’t. And if the meal has a lot of salt, combined with alcohol, you might be triggering a tension headache.

ps–the yogurt suggestion as a late night snack is an excellent one. The potassium is an essential counterbalance to elevated salt. A basic primer:

Potassium

[Neal.Mollen]

Alcohol is and ever was a poison … too much of it is not good for the health - period.

Help:

1. drink a lot of water in between your sips of wine - A LOT !
2. learn to spit … it´s almost no loss of taste and pleasure (almost), but will minimize the alc consumed
3. drink less wine generally

I don´t want to go so far as to put water into your wine but water in between and spitting will dfinitely help.

I always spit at tastings with many bottles - even at home. One can get used to it.

This is how I roll now. I’ve essentially given up swallowing alcohol. Feel worlds better for it. I still taste (and understand that I get a wee bit this way), but the difference in things like sleep, etc. is just too noticeable and the positive impact on my health has been considerable.

Interesting. This isn’t a trade-off I’d be willing to make. I don’t go to tastings and almost never attend events where multiple bottles are opened. 99.9% of the wine I drink is with my wife, over dinner, a single bottle between us. I would never spit; I’d rather just not drink if that were the price of admission

And I never day-drink wine. Occasionally (very occasionally) at a bbq type social event I will have a beer or two, but it will almost inevitably lead to a late-day nap

[Philip_G]

Alcohol is and ever was a poison … too much of it is not good for the health - period.

Help:

1. drink a lot of water in between your sips of wine - A LOT !
2. learn to spit … it´s almost no loss of taste and pleasure (almost), but will minimize the alc consumed
3. drink less wine generally

I don´t want to go so far as to put water into your wine but water in between and spitting will dfinitely help.

I always spit at tastings with many bottles - even at home. One can get used to it.

This is how I roll now. I’ve essentially given up swallowing alcohol. Feel worlds better for it. I still taste (and understand that I get a wee bit this way), but the difference in things like sleep, etc. is just too noticeable and the positive impact on my health has been considerable.

Interesting. This isn’t a trade-off I’d be willing to make. I don’t go to tastings and almost never attend events where multiple bottles are opened. 99.9% of the wine I drink is with my wife, over dinner, a single bottle between us. I would never spit; I’d rather just not drink if that were the price of admission

And I never day-drink wine. Occasionally (very occasionally) at a bbq type social event I will have a beer or two, but it will almost inevitably lead to a late-day nap

I also don’t spit at home. Would rather cork it up and drink it later. If we’re going to do a home tasting with multiple bottles we will use the Coravin. I’ve learned the hard way and always spit at vineyard tastings. Not everything but I try to make sure I can get through the day in good shape otherwise the evening can be ruined and for us the evening dinner is usually as important as the day’s wine tasting when we’re in wine country.

[Eric_Lundblad]

More important than having wine with food is…eat something before you drink, preferably fats & carbs. Most alcohol is absorbed by your small intestines…if there’s not much in your stomach/intestines, the wine will go straight to your small intestines and get absorbed quite quickly. consuming fats & carbs are the most effective at slowing this down.

This is significant & most/all folks here would benefit from trying this out. I have wine with dinner mostly, and I’ve switched to eating a bit before drinking any wine…it’s made a significant difference, more than any thing else I’ve done. More details (many more details) here:

https://sites.duke.edu/apep/module-1-gender-matters/content/content-how-is-alcohol-absorbed-into-the-body/

About headaches…in addition to alc, higher alcs & histamines…VA & aldehydes can be a problem as well, so avoiding those can help (how to figure that out is the trick, so this part isn’t terrifically helpful advice)

[Neal.Mollen]

This is how I roll now. I’ve essentially given up swallowing alcohol. Feel worlds better for it. I still taste (and understand that I get a wee bit this way), but the difference in things like sleep, etc. is just too noticeable and the positive impact on my health has been considerable.

Interesting. This isn’t a trade-off I’d be willing to make. I don’t go to tastings and almost never attend events where multiple bottles are opened. 99.9% of the wine I drink is with my wife, over dinner, a single bottle between us. I would never spit; I’d rather just not drink if that were the price of admission

And I never day-drink wine. Occasionally (very occasionally) at a bbq type social event I will have a beer or two, but it will almost inevitably lead to a late-day nap

I also don’t spit at home. Would rather cork it up and drink it later. If we’re going to do a home tasting with multiple bottles we will use the Coravin. I’ve learned the hard way and always spit at vineyard tastings. Not everything but I try to make sure I can get through the day in good shape otherwise the evening can be ruined and for us the evening dinner is usually as important as the day’s wine tasting when we’re in wine country.

It’s been at least 20 years since I visited a vineyard. Just doesn’t interest me. When I travel I want to do other things, and there are no vineyards worth visiting in my backyard