Single greatest American wine ever made?

The fun of being a member at Grailey’s here in Dallas is that you get to taste really incredible wines, and a bunch of them, from other people’s cellars. I’ve tried dozens of big Napa cabs from the 70s and 80s, and a few from the 60s. I just don’t think they’re still hanging in there as the greatest wines. How can I know if the 02s, 97s, 01s, 91s, and 94s will be when they’re 40? So I’m stuck here. Mondavi Reserve from 74 was a really neat wine, but faded. I’ve had Eiseles and Backuses from the 80s from all sorts of bottle sizes. I’ve had Sunspots and Hillsides out the wazoo. Fun stuff. But who knows what time will tell. The most arresting wines I’ve had at tastings, some double blind and some not blind at all were:

1997 Harlan Estate
1997 Abreu Madrona Ranch
1991 Dominus
1994 Dominus
2001 and 2002 Shafer Hillside Select
1995 Phelps Insignia
1997 Phelps Insignia
2002 Phelps Insignia

Wes,

I was mocking the things wine writers say and that winemakers say, usually when they are trying to sell wine.eg…vines need to suffer. This is a French concept.

Of course, some people say leaf roll virus is good because it slows ripening, but nobody says Pierce’s Disease is wonderful, except maybe a bunch of sharpshooters.

But about this loose claim that toxins have damaged vineyards in Northern California and that therefore the wines are not as good as it should be…impossible to prove or disprove and in any case I would like to see examples.

When i see wine quality suffer in a vineyard, usually there is a more simple explanation, like change of ownership, winemaking, PD, etc.

I have had all of these wines, and the '91 Dominus last year is heads and tails above the rest of them.

Better than the '95 Insignia and both '01 and '02 HSS? I gotta try that soon.

I have not had the '95 Insignia in many moons, so memory may be getting the better of me. As to the two vintages of SHSS, they aren’t even close at this point. Granted they are of different styles and Dominus has ten years of bottle age on them.

I’d say the 91 Dominus which I had about 4 years ago, is much better at this point than 1991 Ridge Monte Bello. At least in my opinion. I think the 91 Dominus is an exceptional wine, but is now soft and tailing. I’d not wait to drink it up, and think the 95 Insignia will be a longer lasting wine. They’re both exceptional wines that I’d love to drink any day.

For me, and I am not an expert in U.S. wine:
SQN Shot in the dark!
105 points on my scale [cheers.gif]

i agree…'91 dominus is my favorite dominus ever! very different from '01/'02 shs or harlan. '91 dominus is very elegant and drinking almost like great bordx…however i do like '97 insigina as well.

91 dominus is one of the best napa cabs I have ever had.

Agree. Always felt it was a perfect example of no nonsense pure Cabernet. I still have a 3.0L waiting for that special day.

A family favorite. My late father in law had cases of this wine. My late mother in law used to drink it over ice!

Not can I say that my favorite wines on any given day would be my favorites on any other given day. Wine is subjective and this may be fun but contains no truth.

2002 Liberty Bay Cellers Merlot or 2007 Duckhorn. Ballers agree those wines made some of the best Bordeaux ever tasted.

I may have missed it but the 1974 Robert Mondavi is/was a worthy candidate.

Is there some cause and effect relationship there?

Say what???

Framed that way, I concur.

Geyserville is the only American wine that I buy every year.

These were the base wines in Rudy’s recipes

So many good wines. The 91s were spectacular. And there are the beauties from the late sixties (Mayacamas, Heitz and Chappelet). But of the more recent ilk, among those that have blown me away include:

87 Spottswoode
92 Maya
94 Harlan
95 Araujo
97 Pahlmeyer
97 Williams-Selyem Rochioli Block
05 Rochioli West Block

87 Mondavi Reserve
91 Dominus
97 Harlan
01 Shafer HSS
03, 07 Scarecrow
01 Schrader (there might be better Schrader’s, but this was my first bottle ever bought from them and it hooked me in)