Seventy-Five Percent Cork Rate--2006 Charvin CdP

WINE TALK
#1

I bought six bottle maybe 6-8 months ago and have opened four bottles since…with a three bottles horribly corked for a 75% rate of failure. I opened one last night and yup, corked…I am not talking slightly, but rather, undrinkable.

Has anyone ever experienced such a high rate with the same wine with such a small sample size? Any explanations?

#2

CdP---->Rhone---->France=answer.

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#3

I didn’t say Brett you mook. Plus is was a stellar deal.

#4

that sucks tex. had one the other night from probably the same source (not that it matters) and it was fine.

what’s interesting is that laurent charvin is fanatical about corks. when we visited him a few years ago, the visit started with a 20+ minute introduction to these massive bags of corks he had just gotten and in which he took particular pride. he was pointing out all the various characteristics that he was looking for and went out of his way to make sure that they were the best quality he could find as he detested any wine being ruined by the cork. of course, that doesn’t ensure that a few corks will have TCA now and then. but i’ve enver seen a vigneron spend so much time talking about the corks.

call them up and see if they have any left.

#5

Just here to help.

#6

Pretty sure that the source will make it right. Just kinda disappointing as the “good” bottle that we had earlier was hitting on all cylinders.

#7

Wow… that’s some serious bad luck. I’ve been through a couple bottles of this and all have been fine. Sorry Bill.

#8

Webber and I went 3 for 3 one night with 04 Domain Buisson-Charles Premier Cru Mersault Goutte-D-Or.

#9

I’ve had the same problem with the 1998, the last vintage I bought.

The 1 in 4 that isn’t corked is spectacular.

FWIW, I’ve had a 2/3rds corked rate with 1998 Vieux-Telegraph.

Damn shame.

#10

It raises an interesting point that a fellow wino Jace Glowa, brought up one night at a dinner: Can corked wines be contaminated within a grouping as a result of contamination in a batching? If so, would one’s rate of corkage run higher from a case if he/she notices the first bottle to be corked? Is there any correlation?

#11

I’ve only had one to see what I wanted to do about how much to purchase. That one bottle led me to purchase 2 cases so I hope your experience is an aberration.

#12

I’d contact Peter Wegandt. I’m sure he’d replace 'em.

#13

That is what I am interested in finding out.

#14

Interesting. Horrible rate of failure. I can’t remember if it was 2005 or 2006, but Jason H. brought a bottle of Charvin down recently, and it was horribly corked. WTF?

#15

Ouch, that stinks. Literally.

I drank a lot of the 1996 Dom Perignon when it first came out, and there was a surprisingly very high incidence of TCA. Out of maybe 18 bottles drunk over 2 years, a good 5-6 were off.

#16

I had this happen with 2 1.5L of Groth Reserve 1997… I believe it was due to previous storage methods or was damaged due to prior shipping methods. I was rather bummed.

It is obvious that your situation , most likely is due to storage/shipping conditions prior to you receiving it.

I doubt it is all due to bad corks. I can see one being a bad cork, but not as many as you indicated.

#17

I don’t know anything about the wine in question - but do keep in mind that TCA can exist in wineries, in filter pads, etc etc.

Adam Lee
Siduri Wines

#18

This could translate into some serious suck for you.

#19

I recently purchased 6 for a song from PC I think $29 beans and opened one that was not corked. I will be alert with the next bottle I open, but where did you get yours Tex?

#20

Mine came from an outlet in Georgia.