Schild Estate 2004 TNs - Oy!

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August 2009 - Schild Estate 2004 TN - Facacta
September 2009 - Schild Estate 2004 TN - Furblungit

My final two bottles were not up to par. This wine has fallen apart. I was a big fan and bought based upon the WS review. While the WS rating was too high, I did think it showed beautiful depth, texture and an elegance that rose above the typical hot, sugary side of other australian wines i had tasted at the time.

Scott

August 2008 TN - 2004 Schild Estate Shiraz Barossa Valley (Australia, South Australia, Barossa, Barossa Valley) - I wish all australian shiraz was like this - perfectly balanced, full bodied and rich but not in your face - smooth; blueberries, plums, vanilla

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I opened one of these tonight and was disappointed. When I last had one 2 years ago, I thought it showed good stuffing but was too tightly wound and would need time to open up and show well. But tonights bottle showed so different that it is hard to believe it is the same wine. The tannins have pretty much been shed and the fruit is at the forefront. The problem is that the fruit is overly ripe and grapey. The initial fruit lasts a bit on the palate and then the wine completely dies off from there.

There may have been a time when the tannis and fruit balanced out and the wine was nice, but I seem to have missed it. Drank one too early and one too late I guess. Now the only question is whether some of this overripe fruit will fade out and the wine will become a decent drink. If not, it is one to pour for those that might like a yellow tail reserve.

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I have one left of an original three. Opened one early, enjoyed it for what it was. Gave one to a friend, and have been holding onto this last one for a while. Are you guys suggesting hold and hope, or just pop and chug to get drunk? :slight_smile:

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Rick,

It is hard to say what will happen with this wine. But at this point I would hold it. The fruit is so overly ripe and sweet, with absolutely zero acid to cut through and nothing to balance it, that it isn’t enjoyable to drink. Maybe the fruit will mellow out in a year and it will get better. It still won’t develop into anything special, but it can’t be any worse than it is right now, at least to my palate

I did put 1/2 of it away for tomorrow and will report back if it changes for the better.

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Oh Kreplach! I hate it when the fershluginah wine turns into chazereih. Here are my notes on this wine. My last bottle got a notably lower rating, but I thought it was the comparison. Maybe its just because the wine will soon be worth Bupkis. I feel like such a schlemazel. I’m going to kick that alter kacker who recommended this wine right in the tuches.

  • 2004 Schild Estate Shiraz Barossa Valley - Australia, South Australia, Barossa, Barossa Valley (9/7/2009)
    I previously rated this wine higher and I do not think it is getting worse, but my comparison points this time were better wines and it suffered by comparison. Popped and poured. Very dark in color. Strong cherry fruit flavor with pepper and some blueberry. A bit monolithic compared to the grenache/syrah wines I had after it but still very enjoyable. The mouth feel is nice but there is an end of palate bite that gives a spicy feel to it. (90 pts.)
  • 2004 Schild Estate Shiraz Barossa Valley - Australia, South Australia, Barossa, Barossa Valley (11/29/2007)
    This is my third bottle. It is mellowing just a bit. Still lots of red and blue fruits. No long teeth staining intensity. Smooth drinking and very well balanced. Some vanilla in the background, not a lot of spice, but some pepper begining to poke its nose through the fruit forward assault (in a nice way) on your palate. There was also noticeable coffee, which I had not gotten in the prior bottles. I was at Morton’s and kept looking around to see if someone was drinking coffee, but I was in the bar room and I didn’t see anyone with a cup. Everyone I drink this with who is not a “wineaux” loves it. (92 pts.)
  • 2004 Schild Estate Shiraz Barossa Valley - Australia, South Australia, Barossa, Barossa Valley (4/3/2007)
    I really really really like this wine. This one was a pop and pour after a two hour car ride, compared to my last one which had a 90 minute decant. Lots of blue and red fruits with spice and a great mouth feel. Like I have said before, if you think that Aussie Shiraz belongs on pancakes, this wine is not for you. There is no delicacy here, just up front nose and up front flavor, but I do not find it disjointed. The color is very dark. After a while in the bottle, the last few ounces were starting to show some secondary flavors and secondary aromas. There was a bit of wood, but it was not oak. Sort of a cross between oak and cedar, and the pepper was sneaking out. I will try to keep a few of these to see how they age, but it will be hard to keep my hands off them. (93 pts.)
  • 2004 Schild Estate Shiraz Barossa Valley - Australia, South Australia, Barossa, Barossa Valley (2/18/2007)
    Decanted 90 minutes before first drinking. The initial nose upon decanting was bright fruits, blackberry, blueberry and plums, with a touch of sweetness. This is a wonderful Aussie Shiraz to my taste. If you complain about too sweet, too much fruit, and pancake syrup, you may not like this one, but I find it very smooth and easy to drink with a lot of blue fruits and plums. Somtimes I like wines with flavors that I don’t have to stuggle to find, especially with a nice roast beef, baked potato and roasted Brussel sprouts dinner. Excellent mouth feel. A bit of sweetness from the fruit. Very little European syrah pepper and spice but there is a bit in the background. May come out more as it ages. The color is extremely dark, almost black in the glass. Long finish. Alcohol is unobtrusive although the bottle says 14.1% to 16%. Goes down very easy. After reading a lot of Mollydooker Carnival of Love TNs, some good, some very critical, this wine seems like the value priced version of what other people are describing about COL, which I have not yet had.

Closure is “Diam” fake cork. Hope it will hold because I want to let a few of these age to see how it develops. I gave a bottle of this to a non-wineaux for his birthday dinner with his wife and he liked it so much, he sent me two thank you e-mails. (93 pts.)

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Anyone tried the '05 Schild Estate Shiraz? The local Grocery Outlet has scads of it for $8 per. Screwcapped I believe. Yes, at that price I could buy one and try. But I don’t need to waste even $8 and energy if people here have input.

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If Jay Miller gives it 85 points (he did), then it really has to suck!

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Jay, you’re still a Mensch amongst men. [basic-smile.gif]

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No doubt! [rofl.gif]