Saxum James Berry Vineyard ... Collectible ?

[Andy_Sc]

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Don’t get me wrong. I didn’t suggest that wines in France are more complex. I specifically wrote that the Cali wines are often of highest technical pedegree (with outstanding complexity and precision in a good structural frame - I have more than 800 bottles from California in my cellar). My point was that the fine wine market prefers lower alcohol, lower ripeness, lower weight wines which is why the prices of Burgundy are in other spheres (as the orginal poster asked why is this 96-97 point wine for 300 to 800 bucks is more of a collectible than the 97 point wine for 89 bucks).

Sorry, you are correct. I misread your post. I do not think that it has anything to do with under-ripe, low alcohol, lower weight (I assume you mean in the Sparky Marquis sense) process in Europe. I think it is a function of scarcity - some of the wines are made in such minute quantities that it makes MacDonald look like a factory wine, coupled with tradition and the fact that some people like to eat fermented rotten fish heads because they are told that they taste good.

Of course scarcity plays a big role but I don’t think that this explanation is sufficient in this example given that Saxum produces a mere 1000 cases of James Berry Vyd a year only.

[Ken_Strauss]

This is a mountain out of a molehill. Look at Wine Spectator’s own definitions. “Highly recommended” means “The issue’s most impressive wines.” “Collectibles” means “Wines that will improve most from additional bottle age and that show the greatest potential to gain in value.” So, Wine Spectator’s own definition of collectible is predicated on appreciation in value. As others have mentioned, that is not the case that for Saxum in the current market. This is not a critique in any way of Saxum or the Paso wine scene, but a reflection of what wines can be collected in order to gain in financial value. Again, not my view, but Wine Spectator’s.

You have answered the OP.
Well done!

I love Saxum to own and drink. It is not a wine I buy to sell at a profit.
That said if I want to sell for any reason (taste change or too much wine) I know I can recover my cost.

[D_Y0k3n]

My apologies for jumping into this thread, but I am selling a collection of 38 bottles of Saxum (2013 - 2017), including two magnums, and wondering if someone might be interested? I was on the Saxum allocation list during those years.

If there is a more suitable place to post this information (and please excuse me if so), please do let me know. Thank you in advance.

[Mike_Reff]

It is called Commerce Corner for a reason…

At least now there is something to talk to Jay about next week when I see him!