In vintages like 01, 02, 05 and 10 the 1er cru was a great buy at $120-$150 vs the VV at $500-600. Both have the extracted house style but I frequently found the 1er cru to be lighter and silkier than the VV. Haven’t purchased either since 2014 so can’t comment on younger vintages.
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I can’t remember who posted (It may have been @Mark_Golodetz) but further up in the thread there was a note on a recent vintage of the 1er Cru. I think the take away was that it was good, but there were other things he’d rather buy in that price range.
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I don’t think it was me, but fits in with my experiences. And I agree that at $500, it’s basically a second wine, and there are plenty of other choices.
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2023 Faiveley NSG 1e Porêts Saint-Georges
Really forthcoming off the bat. Plenty of ripe red fruit and some floral notes. A noticeable touch of oak, which I like, and some emerging earth/ sous-bois. Tannins are silky with medium alcohol, high acidity, medium body, long finish. Very pleasant and has some potential to improve in the future.
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It’s fine, but really nothing special. It really shouldn’t be compared to cm 1ers. It’s musigny, just not all that good, just like MG gevrey 1er is ruchottes. They poured the 23 at La Paulee iirc, it was fine but nowhere near as good as the VV.
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Apologies, but I don’t understand what you are saying here
Mugneret Gibourg made a wine called Gevrey Chambertin 1er which was young vine Ruchottes until 2011.
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It’s hard to follow along on multiple answers if the thread isn’t nested but I think the original question from Paul was if the Vogue Chambolle 1er was the same grapes as the Musigny itself, just down classified
Michael is confirming that it is Musigny. Same situation as MG where the have some of their Ruchottes downgraded to Gevrey 1er. Young vines in both cases I would guess
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Got it. I think I was confused by the 1er Ruchottes comment and completely forgot that wine existed at one point
Several nights ago, I opened a 2001 Vogue Chambolle 1er. I bought a few of them because I have really loved the 01 Musigny and especially the Amoureuses. The Chambolle 1er was extremely fragrant and quite good overall, though a bit dark and plummy on the palate. It was not a Musigny substitute despite being made with Musigny grapes. It was a very solid but not tip-top CM 1er. If it could be had for similar money, I’d prefer Mugnier Fuees, for example. But my 01s were like $200/per at auction and for that price they are very lovely indeed.
(Bonus blurry headshot of my son studying in the background)
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I forgot I still have 2 of the 1996 1er left, which I only discovered upon reading your note and going to find my last note on the 2001 (in line with yours, btw.) I seem to have forgotten about these since 2009, 
Maybe I will open one soon. They have always been solid good burgundy. Never Musigny. But then, for me, almost nothing reaches those heights.
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We just tasted both from barrel. Completely different wines, which makes sense when you realize one is 20 yo vines and the other is 80-100 yo or whatever. The complexity and depth is light-years apart.
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What a shock.
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I like your son’s style! 
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Opened a '17 Francois Buffet Clos Chenes last night. Still a young wine, but may a bit of a Rorschach test on how you feel about young burg. It was delicious, with wonderful fruit. Showing the balance and easy going nature of the vintage without sacrificing concentration/depth. A serious wine. Can’t help wishing I had another to open in 8-10 years.
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Half-bottle last night of 2020 Fornerol. Dense and ripe and very compact—all in all, very 2020. Needs time, probably a bunch of it.
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The Burgundian knows what they are doing, and rightfully they ask you to pay for it. If you could not afford to drink the Musigny v.v…why asking ***for trouble ****. My dear CorotnB - Paul, pease keeping on drinking Corton… 
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Quite dark and dense, charcuterie, earth and pot pourri. Some more chalky whole bunch tannins. Rather voluminous and savoury, youthful despite its 14 yrs. Always had a soft spot for this cuvée!
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Kent, have you tried the 2009 or 2010?