Recent red burgundy vintage experiences

Thanks Paul. I know it’s frightfully early for any of those vintages. But curiosity! I’m hoping that they have moved to being a bit more accessible in youth over the last decade.

76 vogue musigny didn’t need more time…

The 1978 M/V was very fine even 12 yeas ago …
:joy: - but I remember having had it first in 1991, and then it was tight

always seems to need more time than expected! Interesting note on the '07s. I’ve had a few that felt a bit light, but when they have the right balance, they can be really enjoyable.

Yeah I think vogue musigny and roumier bm need the most time of most grand crus.

Do you think I should hold off opening a 17 Vogue Musigny? Asking if 17 is an exception to the rule IYO.

I would definitely not open a 17 vogue musigny personally. When we opened the 07 which is likely an even more accessible vintage in 21 it wasn’t remotely ready. We had it again in 23 and it still was better but not that giving, lighter bodied and elegant but could’ve used more time. I feel like right now you wouldn’t get much out of the 17.

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Thanks for the advice!

Very limited dataset. Faiveley 07s seem to be getting tired very quickly… Cazetiers is tired, Latricieres is faded/lost intensity on the nose, and Beze was wide open. Asked someone who drinks a lot of burgundy and they made a loose comment on 07s fading faster than expected. Didn’t mean to imply the vintage overall was already dead, but some lower tier wines may be tiring at this stage and the Grand Crus could be ready quicker than expected (which isn’t a bad thing). I’ll bring an 07 Beze to the next WB event.

I mean my experience is the absolute opposite, but I’m mostly drinking 07s from Rousseau, DRC, MG and a few others. Angerville is also good. I’m still skeptical wines like Roumier and Vogue are even starting to drink well.

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The 89 wasn’t a great vintage of that. I got gifted one in 98 visiting the domaine and it drank pretty well the same year.

Not my experience. I had no Faiveley 07 recently (wasn’t 2007 the vintage when they changed their style?), but 07 C.d.Beze Bouchard was very fine 7 weeks ago, 07 CdlRoche/Raphet and Arnoux Suchots were wonderful in December - and all are in no danger of fading.

I think I had a few other random 07s a few years ago from Gerard raphet (beze) and Louis remy which were also great.

All my Burgundy vintage experiences are now recent :slight_smile:



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