Poll for question regarding whether pinot vs. Cab correlates

WINE TALK
21

Jeff, my next poll should be about whether anyone thinks your palate has improved over time. pileon [rofl.gif] [pillow-fight.gif]

22

Almost every-time I try a Pinot I am underwhelmed. Maybe I just don’t know what to buy. I’ll be looking for that Sojourn.

23

at any age - more cab! blahblah

24

The SC is great (especially QPR-wise). We had the '07 Gap’s Crown the other night that was absolutely rocking right out of the gate. Tremendous wine in every sense.

25

I am going to have a really hard time staying away from Sangiacomo and Gap’s Crown now. I don’t think the QPR qualifier is needed for Sojourn SC 07, it is just plain great domestic Pinot. I have a lot of 07 Pinot in my cellar I wish I could magically exchange for Sojourn SC.

26

I’ve told you that several times!

27

46 and twice as much Pinot as Cab/Bordeaux blends. The trending to more Pinot has definitely increased over time.

28

So based on this data… [stirthepothal.gif]

  • There aren’t enough participating wine geeks <30 or >60.
  • The 30 - 40 guys probably have a lot of Cali Pinots
  • A lot of 30 - 40 Cali Pinot guys realize what they really want are Cabs and adjust by age 40 - 50
  • The 40 - 50 guys evolve through the Cab phase and discover Burgundy
  • The 50 - 60 guys “get it”…RMP and a few other notables not withstanding.

RT

29

While I have more Pinot, that may be influenced by one of my favorite Pinot producers offering some of theirs at a very good price - so I bought another case. Other than that, the mix if rather close, and probably slightly in favor of Cab.

30

Most certainly I am overthinking, overthinking is the name of my game! neener

I guess I read it as more of a finesse vs. power sort of question since it seems reductionist to limit the wine world to Pinot and Cab. Especially when Cab includes Napa, Bdx and all Bdx-varietal blends while Pinot only allows for, well, 100% Pinot. Then the vagaries of Power Pinot vs. Classic Claret creep in . . . .

31

There’s only two reasons I haven’t gotten into Burgundy:

  1. Money … or lack thereof, really.
  2. Ignorance — I just wouldn’t know where to start.
32

I think a nice Santenay or Beaune 1er cru would remedy both issues.

33

Um, cabernet or Bordeaux perhaps? Or whatever else it is you currently enjoy drinking? There’s no obligation to like every grape and every style of wine.

That said, be sure to taste any Burgundies or pinots other people open for you and you may find something you like some day. I always drink wines I expect to dislike as I’m occasionally pleasantly surprised.

34

Kinda skewed for me.
40-50 more cabs
I have more cabs in the cellar because I drink all my Pinots. Cabs just arent’ a regular drinker for me but I could drink a pinot most any day. That is if I am out of Syrah.

35

Thanks, Keith. I’ve actually had a couple from Santenay that I enjoyed … but I’ve also had a couple that I thought were rather insipid. Beaune 1er cru’s – haven’t tried any of those, so I’ll probably chance one or two of those next time I’m in the mood to gamble.

I guess another part of “ignorance” is “knowing what to try next.” Whether it’s true, or not, Burg. feels like a minefield to me, and an expensive one at that. Nonetheless, I do realize I can’t travel the road to Burgundy without first placing foot on the path. Some day, I will timidly take that first step. As it is now, I merely stop by for a quick glance from time to time.

36

If I consider Left Bank Bordeaux to be in the Cab camp, then I really do not know. I certainly have more Burgundy and Domestic PN than I do cab from all over, excluding Brodeaux.

37

A couple of places to start without breaking the bank:

Bouchard Beaune de Chateau
Pavelot Savigny les Beaune (any premier cru)
Chandon de Briailles Pernod Vergelesses Ille des Vergelesses

Avoid 2003 and 2004 and pretty much any other vintage is ok (although many 2005s will be closed - great vintage, just not now)

38

This poll is of course fatally flawed as there are no choices regarding Rhone varieties … [tease.gif]

Alex

PS In all seriousness, in my 30s it would have been Bordeaux and other Cab-based wines, but now in my late 40s, excluding Rhone reds, it is Burgundy!

39

Alex,

I really have to hand it to you. You don’t look like you are in your late 40s.

But, if you seem to have been listening too much to the old (Rhone) Nicos and not to the more recent (Burg) Nicos.

40

Howard, that means you haven’t seen me recently … [shock.gif]

As for Nicos, while he has certainly moved in the red Burgundy direction, I think his heart is still in the Rhone.

Alex