Piedmont producers

WINE TALK
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Yeah,but the OP asked for tiers of 5.
With tiers of 10,Brovia and Marcarini go in 2

Sandrone and Voerzio hold no interest from me,but certainly do so for many others.

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I might move Cappellano to Tier 1, add Ferrando and Antoniolo to Tier 3 at least … but I haven’t tasted nearly as widely and deeply as Bill. And given how closely Bill’s preferences mirror mine in my lesser experience, I’ll be referring back to this post as a guide for future exploration.

Thanks, Bill! [cheers.gif]

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I wouldn’t put the Produttori in the second tier. I also think it’s very easy to underestimate Marcarini wines young.

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4th,5th tiers
Seghesio
Cantina del Pino
Porro
F Rinaldi
E Grasso
Antoniolo
Cantalupo Ghemme
Parusso
Prunotto
Cortese

In no particular order.

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I asked for 5 tiers, that does not restrict each tier to 5 producers. Thanks to all for the well considered responses.

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Produttori has been making superb,long lived wines for over 40 years,always consistently clean,well made and individually specific throughout their single vineyard offerings.No other producer has offered such great quality from so many wines in so many years.

Agreed,along with scores of other Nebbiolo.

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Love this list, though I think Brovia is better than 3!



It seems hard to compare producers like Sandrone and Voerzio with Cappellano and Roagna. These to me seem like different wines altogether![/quote]

Yeah,but the OP asked for tiers of 5.
With tiers of 10,Brovia and Marcarini go in 2

Sandrone and Voerzio hold no interest from me,but certainly do so for many others.[/quote]

I asked for 5 tiers, that does not restrict each tier to 5 producers. Thanks to all for the well considered responses.[/quote]

"If you were to take the top 25 Nebbiolo producers from the entire Piedmont over the last 30 years and organize them into five levels, how would you structure the ranking?"
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“If you were to take the top 25 Nebbiolo producers from the entire Piedmont over the last 30 years and organize them into five levels, how would you structure the ranking?”
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Bill- the choice to divide them into equal groupings of 5 was yours and that is perfectly fine with me. But, it was not stated as such in my OP. That would have unnecessarily restrictive.
Apologies if that was not clear. Feel free to have as many or as few in each level as you think appropriate.

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I think they’re excellent wines and I own a lot of them, as they are excellent value. I just think there are other producers that produce better wines.

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Bill, I think the problem with Brovia (and I say this based on our recent tastings) is that the wines are much better post-arrival of Alex Sanchez. A lot of the earlier vintages we’ve tried recently were non-memorable. So I would include Brovia on the list if the question were rephrased to ask which wines among current releases should one be targeting now, as I think they would be ranked higher post '99 than if you considered them in the context of their production over the past 30 years (the original question).

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I would put Produttori in the top tier, but I can also see John’s argument for tier 2 as well.

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I was saying that I’d put them below the second tier. There are so many excellent producers that it’s no embarrassment be in the third tier.

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Then that’s fighting words [stirthepothal.gif]

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Actually, I’m kind of with John here (and this from a guy that owns more Produttori than any other producer in Piemonte). I think they’re literally at the apex of the QPR pyramid, but there is no way in good conscience I could compare their wines to Giacosa’s, G. Conterno’s, either Mascarello, etc.

And as John mentions, given the overall high quality of winemaking in the region, it’s not like tier 3 is DNPIM - I think they’re true to their respective terroirs, and very good representatives of the various Barbaresco crus, but I have any number of producers in my cellar that I prize more than my stash of Produttori.

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Agreed.
That’s why they’re in MY 2nd tier…

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I’d be interested to know if anyone would put Borgogno in their top 25. I have only tasted about 20 different producers from Piemonte, but on a trip to the region last Spring, I would have put their wines in the top tier of what we tasted – particularly because it was so clearly distinguishable from the “international style” wines. Being Nebbiolo newbies at the time, we didn’t know what to make of it at first, but if “tar and roses” is the fundamental aromatic characteristic of nebbiolo, then Borgogno was the exemplar. By the end of the trip, both my wife and I were hooked on Barolo, and we are always on the look-out for a great, well balanced bottle that lets off just a whiff of tar and roses.

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96/8=12xAlbesani =Yes

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Ciao,

If no one has mentioned Oddero yet, I would like to submit them as in my first rank.

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Greetings from Nova Scotia,

Yes, I would put the 47 and 64 Borgogno Riservas amongst the greatest Barolos I have ever tasted.