Ominous Note From Galloni - 2020 Ridge Monte Bello "Approach With Caution""

I left before the 2020 MB got opened, but mostly agree with Larry on the other 2020 wines. Both the estate Merlot and Cab were very nice, no signs of smoke that I could detect on nose or palate. Actually, the oak levels seemed a bit lower than normal, which may or may not just be my own perception. I’ve heard winemakers talk in the past about cutting back on new oak in years where there might be potential smoke issues, to lessen the amount purposely introduced through the barrel.

In a short discussion with Tres, he outlined how vigilant they were in keeping lots separate (which they always do), and testing thoroughly for smoke taint, multiple times. Even sending some samples to australia, where they have even more experience than we might here dealing with fires and smoke. They definitely excluded some lots, which is another reason (in addition to drought), why there is so little wine in 2020.

I liked the Cab a bit more than the Merlot, reverse of Larry, but that’s just personal preference. Plus he has the palate of a yak :crazy_face:

Was a glorious day up on the ridge, on the crisp side, but just beautiful.








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I also preferred the Merlot over the Cab

Anybody else open the '20 Monte Bello to check on smoke damage?

I think I picked up a little on all three. Didn’t hear anyone else agreeing, and I think they’re all still excellent wines. Just a little grit on the tail end. Is it a problem if 99.9% of wine geeks can’t tell?

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One can make the same argument about TCA, no?

Reminds me of the 2001 Chateau Montelena Cab - Laube picked up systemic TCA but the majority of others did not.

Cheers

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This sounds similar to what @CFu has said in the past about how he detects smoke damage - something unspecific but ‘wrong’ at the tail end/finish

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I get a touch of gritty ash on the finish.

I’ve been barrel tasted on smoke tainted cab just to understand the profile and even on wine we were told is smoke tainted, many in the group didn’t detect it. I think in Cabernet especially the tannin and oak profile can hide it a bit to the point we might think it’s just part of the structural profile.

It’s quite interesting.

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Same. I am usually the first one to call out TCA at a table, and the few 2020 Oregon Pinot Noirs I tasted that were sworn to be smoke free when tested, certainly were not to me. There is just an ever so present ashiness on the finish and mid palate is a bit clipped.

Old enough to just skip vintages where smoke is/may be an issue, for all those who choose to buy, more power to you. I just feel like the odds of hitting a grand slam are much lower than strinking out multiple times. Not worth it for me, personally.

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Are you talking about your impressions of the 2020 MB or just smoke damage in general?

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in general - have not tasted 2020 MB

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This. Like what Fu said, it’s not unspecific. It’s something I’ve knowingly experienced. Then, in the case of this trio, it’s a very subtle aspect of the wines that most people don’t pick out.

I’ve had the same sort of experience with other minor flaws, as I smell rots and mildews in a way that leaves a strong impression. I’ll be at a table tasting a wine everyone else is loving and pick up some hint of some rot or mildew and just can’t look past it in a way to enjoy the wine. Got that in a highly rated benchmark wine everyone was oogling over, and commented “rancid rat vomit in a velvet glove.” 98 pts.

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Galloni is out today with his note on 2020 MB from bottle and has judged it smoke tainted without reservation. Ouch.

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What exactly did his note say?

So do we think he’s just extra sensitive to smoke taint?

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Commentary, not the tasting note: I found the 2020 Monte Bello and Estate Cabernet Sauvignon problematic. Both wines show clear signs of smoke taint. I can’t say I am terribly surprised. The Monte Bello was tainted when I tasted it from barrel, but that was during the COVID-19 lockdown. At the time, my hope was that I had received a less-than-perfect sample, but in the end, it was pretty representative of the finished wine. The TN is copyrighted.

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Aside from the smoke taint, he thought it was pretty good.

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I wonder if Ridge will have to do any damage control with customers. I suspect anyone with access to that note and having purchased that wine will be less than thrilled.

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Huh. Well, I didn’t taste smoke taint but I would also not be shocked if it eventually showed up. And if so, shame on Ridge.

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Eric Liaw is going to bring a bottle to a dinner on Thursday that we’re both attending. I’ll let you know my take.

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He didn’t score it very high. And the wine is flawed .

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