I always found it an odd obsession, paying for someone elseâs opinion, especially given under the previous management, that it appeared more important what the reviewer thought, rather than them equipping their readers with the insight to make their own decision.
That said, the reinvention / rebranding is an interesting exercise and despite us having some fun with the traitorous OP ( ), his subscription is perhaps indicative of genuine change to the brand.
Iâm guessing itâs not yet publicly known as Michelin wine guide, but would expect that change to happen sooner rather than later, especially when the value of the old brand is more questionable given a stylistic (and attitude) change. The Michelin brand has significant reach and value in the wider world for sure.
Did Squires leave as well? Iâm so out of the loop I must have missed that. It was certainly Parker and Squires who were the problem personalities (though people like Rovani left before I had any awareness of their forum, so Iâve no idea if he was problematic as well). Beyond those two, I got the impression that other reviewers would often tread gently and diplomatically to try and calm the situation, or simply stay out of the train wreck if Squires and Parker were especially combative.
I remember them doing that to Ric Einstein (TORB) and thinking it a remarkable act to code any mention of their name to be replaced by asterisks.
Good moderators live up to the name and moderate the discussion, attempting to apply a pragmatic ruleset in an even-handed manner. The worst treat it as a personal fiefdom, seeking to force the conversation to match their way of thinking, and removing those that wonât comply, in the manner of a military dictator. In the long run, good moderation does pay better dividends, as we saw with the demise of their forum, going from biggest to dead inside a small few years.
Interesting comparison between Williamâs 2019 note, and the note from his then-colleague at TWA, Lisa P. Brown:
Rich and demonstrative, the 2019 Bon Pasteur delivers aromas of cherries, blackberries, figs, warm spices and wood smoke. Full-bodied, rich and extracted, with a jammy core of fruit, ripe acids and plenty of fine, powdery tannin that asserts itself on the heady finish, this is a muscular, rather chunky Pomerol that remains faithful to the stylistic fashions of the early 2000s while the rest of the wine world moves on.
88 pts.
And
The 2019 Bon Pasteur sports a deep garnet-purple color, charging out of the glass with bold blackberry pie, blueberry preserves and prunes notes followed by hints of cedar chest, Ceylon tea, Indian spices and licorice with a waft of violets. Full-bodied, the palate packs a wallop of black fruits, framed by rock-solid, grainy tannins and tons of freshness, finishing with great length and depth.
I really appreciate that the spread of points is around the 91-93 range for the Grand Vin vs 97-100. especially given declaring it ânot a great vintage.â whereas other publications would still feel the need to give the moutons, lafites, latours, etc 99-100 points even when they say the vintage is mediocre.
Wine Berserkers will soon become the official forum for the Wine Advocate.
And can a requirement to subscribe to WA in order to post be far behind?
Or maybe only Grand Cru members or above will be allowed to subscribe to WA?
I think that is inaccurate. Look at years like 2012 and 2013 that were not âgreatâ vintages and you will see low 90s for even some of the firsts (it was either 2012 or 2013 Lafite that got a 91, which is like declaring a 1st basically undrinkable ) There can also be a winery that has a great success in an otherwise troublesome vintage.
has suckling ever given a grand vin a 91 before? i dont know if his scoring system even goes below 95! but absolutely, i have seen it happen before, but i just mean even the wines that got praise werent just automatically in the upper 90s just because of their price stratification, which was nice.