Never enough white wines!

I was joking.

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My collection is almost 50/50. But that wouldn’t mean much if each category was filled with wines from the same region/producers only. I drink a lot of very light reds which i often find less heavy than some of my whites and a better fit for a warm day. But i also love Northern Rhone Syrah’s and Nebbiolo which is a safe bet for large parts of the year here in Denmark.

What i am trying to say is that for me it is not so much about whites versus reds, but how diverse the styles of your collection is.

You should get to know Dan Petroski and his Massican wines. All whites, Italian varieties. The best.

Full disclosure, Dan is a friend.

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Luis Seabra Xisto Ilimitado

Try this if its available. Very servicable.

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The last few weeks, with Los Angeles turning into the surface of the sun, have basically exhausted all the even remotely reasonably priced white wine I had at home.

I am really going to have to change my buying patterns going forward.

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Not to mention Assyrtiko . The good ones age beautifully. (Eg Sigalas). Avoid the oaked versions.

I know! But I had this one insane experience on my Insta about me using the word “ghetto” as a descriptor of the area my winery is located (which is a total mess), and it sparked this woke onslaught about what constitutes a ghetto, and “do you know what that word means” etc. Can’t be too careful these days.

More of a function of when you began your collection in my case and what was considered ageable, since all my White Burgundy would have been squarely in pre-mox era. If I could do it all over again:

40% Red
25% White
30% Champagne/Sparkling
5% Sake

My go to daily drinker’s are Martin Codax Albarino (Spain) and Paulo da Silva Casal da Azenha (portugeuese). These are fine, but I’m getting increasingly bored of them.

But examples of wines that I find really funky are:

Bodegas Honorio Rubio Rioja Blanca Lias Finas Crianza
Suertes de Marques Trenzado
Suertes de Marques Vidonia
Anything from Envinate (white or red)
Borja Perez “Artifice” Listan Blanco

Hi Sarah,

I just replied to Guillermo above
I didn’t know how to quote you as well.

Is this the cheaper one, or the more expensive bottling? I’ve tried the cheaper one and found it cloudy and servicable
but nothing that got me excited.

So, to summarize, you find funkiness in Canary Islands whites (and one Rioja).

I think the MartĂ­n CĂłdax Albariño is fine but I can see why it’s boring after too much of it.

As I said earlier, I plan to widen my Albariño purchases soon, starting with trying to taste through the Nanclares y Prieto range, since several sound very good. Of course, my go to is the RaĂșl PĂ©rez Atalier, which, if you haven’t tried it, is really more than one step up from entry level Albariños, even from the best producers.

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Exactly what I was going to post!

Sam Bilbro makes some really good whites under his Idlewild label.

I love drinking his Cortese. It gets a bit of skin contact, but not a ton. Just adds some richness to the texture. Delicious wine, especially with a little bit of age on it (couple of years).

Currently trying to bring my split to something like:

50% red
30% white
10% sparkles
10% dessert

Having a wife who only drinks red makes things tough


Those were some examples off the top of my head, but I can certainly see how that list looks like I should be done with wines from the Canary Islands. LOL.

I’d love to try the Raul Perez and am open to any suggestions of crisp, low/no oak white wines. TIA!

Edited to add, I am trying to keep my everyday white wine purchases in the under $20/btl range. Happy to try more expensive bottlings as well, but those would be more weekend type bottles and not bought by the case.

I thought you once started a thread about how you did not like Chardonnay?

I’ve since found a few reliable producers that don’t show the characteristics of what I was then bitching about :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

But I feel a re-introduction too steely Chablises is around the corner again. I’ll have to start over from square one and educate myself. :head_bang:

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Trying wines from Chablis producers will be a joy. There are many wonderful ones, like Christian Moreau.

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Oh my. Julien Brocard, Louis Michel, Samuel Billaud, William Fevre and the list goes on and on 


The question I think now with Chablis is identifying the value plays. In the Before Times they pretty much all were. Now, it’s “mixed”.

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