Down to just three:
Dicostanzo Cabs and Chard
William and Mary Cab and Proprietary
Palisades PS and Cab
Down to just three:
Dicostanzo Cabs and Chard
William and Mary Cab and Proprietary
Palisades PS and Cab
@bracine @kevin_s Thank you for the continued interest in our project! Just confirming the first release will be the 2023 vintage. Just bottled in July, planning to release by early next year.
Macdonald, Tidings, Palisades Canyon, 001 Vinters, and Turnbull are my annual orders.
MACDONALD and Tench. The two I will never skip.
William & Mary
Roy Piper
Rivers-Marie
Ashes & Diamonds (my wife’s favorite)
I’ve trimmed aggressively as my interest in other regions has grown, especially champagne, Bordeaux, and now…Burgundy ![]()
At the risk of thread drift, I see William & Mary mentioned often. Can someone give a quick summary of their wine style?
You can probably start here.
The William of William & Mary is Will Segui who’s also the GM of Rivers Marie. I don’t have as much experience with them as others here might, but I’ve purchased a number of vintages and many of their different bottlings. I’m still trying to decide if I’m a buyer this year.
I’ll generalize so apologies to Will if he feels it’s inaccurate. I’ve enjoyed the bottles so far. In general I think Will shoots for a less-ripe style that still show-cases the CA fruit profile. I’ve found them pretty tight in the early years, sometimes bordering on austere (Proprietary Blend and Shifflet Ranch) on release. I say this because they open up after a few years. Not uber-ripe, high alcohol cult wines by any measure.
Will’s non-estate Cabernets have been more giving and ready earlier, IMO. The 2021 Calistoga (?) I had last fall after a healthy decant was one of the better Cabs I drank last year.
Mine has widdled down tremendously for Napa/Sonoma:
Otherwise, I’ve been spending more of my budget on foreign wines from France, Spain, and Italy and for a while Australia.
‘23’s I am buying
$100-$200:
Outpost
Realm (Bard)
Riverain
Mascot
$300+:
Vice Versa
Open to sub $100 suggestions…
Outpost with complementary shipping on their ‘23 Cab offer, and prices staying the same as the ‘22s, which was down from their ‘21 offering.
(I know Outpost has taken some shots here before - not looking to rehash!)
Keep seeing the Kinsman Eades name pop up. Haven’t heard about it previously.
Is it really that darn good to justify $300+?
Ask yourself how many Bordeaux bottles you can buy of a good 2nd or 3rd growth compared to one $300 bottle and you will have your answer. ![]()
Yeah, this may be the most expensive wine I’ve ever purchased and I just got their entry 3 pack once. I intend to drink one and if my socks aren’t blown off my feet where I’m standing while wearing shoes, I’ll be putting the remaining 2 up for consignment.
I opened 21 Hierothesian for a blind tasting group this year—blew everyone’s socks off.
shoes on, socks blew right off??? sweet moses…well, if it happens, it happens
Frog’s Leap. I am sure there are more but that is the first one that I thought of.
Di Costanzo DICO at 75 is a good buy imo.
Smith Madrone ($65) and Matthiasson ($85) are both near the top in my book for Napa. In Sonoma, Calluna makes a great cab for $75
Our anticipated purchases include:
Zeitgeist
MacDonald
MOWE
Bella Oaks
Blankiet
Peter Michael
Jasud
Beta
Palisades Canyon
001
Nid Tisse