Mucho Musar in Portland, Maine

Ryan organized a big tasting of this renowned property and ask me to write up the wines… so that’s what I’m doing. Many thanks to Ryan and the others who contributed bottles.
A shout-out to Leslie of Grippy Tannins, the είδος of what a wine store should be in a small prosperous educated American city. She provided charcuterie platters, general but knowledgeable commentary and a wonderful atmosphere.

But here are a few caveats:
As I’m retired, I didn’t take notes.
I’ve only had Musar twice before, both times very young (<10 years). I can’t claim to know anything about these wines.
Overall I liked the wines but honestly have to say that there was a lot of inconsistency and a few things I did not like.
Impressions more than tasting notes and no scores, but I’ll rank the wines at bit.
Listed in the order I tasted them.

I didn’t know Musar made white… apparently they make a few. I didn’t catch the exact blend on the 2022 entry level (I remember Chardonnay and Varmintino are in there). This was a reasonably pleasant but unremarkable white, saved from supermarket level by density and vigor, but not something I would buy.
Next (a big step!) up was the 2010 Chateau Musar out of magnum! This was a pale silver color with a green hint, looking more like 15 months than 15 years. The aromas were both leafy and flowery, the texture lean and muscular. It seemed very young and I would think it could develop breadth and subtlety with more bottle age, but…
The 2008 of the same wine had taken on a fairly deep gold color. The aromas showed signs of oxidation, but also signs of life. The palate was alive but dull, with some muted fruit. Not a wine I enjoyed, but…
The 2001 was even a little darker. The aromas were fresher and livelier, with a distinct floral note. The palate followed through with a touch of twisty, zingy acidity. Both very unusual and very good.
The 2010 and 2001 could not have been more different, but I enjoyed both.
The other two simply did not do it for me.

I believe the Rose was 2018; it tasted reasonably fresh for a 7 year old rose. I definitely would have liked it better in 2019 and it might have had something special to offer a year or two later. Perfectly drinkable but unremarkable.

1999 Chateau Musar red was what I tried first. I liked it but found that this and most of the other vintages had volatile acidity. A little bit distracts, more detracts. This fell on the detract side. There was a lot of fruit, but muted. The wine offered medium body and a nice texture. Without research, I’ve always heard that red Musar is mostly Cabernet and Cinsault. I could not really detect the Cabernet; the impression was more Mediterranean. I like this enough to enjoy a glass despite the VA, but next came:
1995 Chateau Musar – This was great wine. Others will hopefully post, but I think it was unanimous as WOTN. No noticeable VA, lighter in body and color than the previous, but with a beautiful panoply of fruits, mostly black, fine minerality, exceptionally subtle and finely layered texture, really harmonious, at a peak. I said no scores, but for me somewhere north of 95 and a total pleasure.
The 2004 was also excellent, just in a tough spot after the 1995. There was just a touch of VA here but lots of fruit in a broadly textured palate, almost as much primary as secondary, this would be a good bet to lay down for 5 or 10 years.
The 2001 disappointed, reminiscent of the 1999 with just too much VA to be a pleasure.
The 2000 was better, still a touch of VA but a slight bright spot between the 2001 and the 1999. A pleasant glass that is probably at or near peak.
The 1998 was along the same lines as the 2000, but I liked that just a little better. Again, a vaguely Mediterranean style of wine with some distinction; ready to drink and would be much better without the irritating touch of VA.

The 2021 Musar Jeune paralleled the entry-level white. It was pleasant, had no noticeable VA, seemed more international in style, like a modern New World version of a Syrah blend.

The 2020 Chateau Musar ‘Hochar’ was much better. Again, no VA to distract, a slightly more modern style than the Chateau Musar bottlings, but distinctive and balanced, albeit young. This is something I think would improve for another 5 years.

Ryan had decanted the 2012 earlier and I almost missed it! Which would have been worse than a shame. Much darker in color, this was the first wine that tasted of Cabernet to me. In fact, the black-currant and touch of tobacco aromas announced the grape before I took my first tip. This was the youngest of the reds (including the lower levels), showing almost primary freshness, some secondary subtlety just starting, a hint of pepper that made me think a little of Syrah, tightly wound, with lots of fine tannins a beautiful balance. This for me was clearly my #2 WOTN.

I am really grateful to have been invited to this tasting. I brought some Champagne and had a 1998 red Bordeaux lined up, but we had too much wine so I didn’t open it.
I liked most of the wines, honestly wished I had liked them more… but the top wines were as special as the reputation of this Estate. I would be happy to add a few bottles of ’95 and ’12 to my collection for very special occasions.

I said I would do notes, but I was hesitant both for my only moderate enthusiasm and especially my lack of knowledge. I hope those who contributed will not take these notes as churlish; having been itb for 40+ years, I can only call ‘em as I taste ‘em.
I also normally proofread and edit, but am on gofer duty and wanted to get this out before tonight’s big upcoming dinner.

Again, my thanks to all.

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Serge, when he was alive, always insisted on serving the whites after the reds. I assume you guys didn’t do that.

For reds, I like the 95, 97 and 00 a lot. 99 is variable as is 98. I’m still drinking wines from the 80s and 90s so I can’t comment on the younger wines.

Some things that I found a bit odd.

First - 2001 white had “zingy acidity”? While it is one of the greatest vintages of 2000’s Musar white, I’ve always found it atypically low in acidity for a white Musar. Some vintages can have zingy acidity, but I’ve never had a bottle of 2001 that had it - and I’ve had it at least 7 times!

Second - you wouldn’t have been able to taste the 2018 Rosé in 2019, unless you were offered a barrel sample. The rosé is typically released 2-3 years after the vintage.

It was also weird to see that of all the vintages you had, 1995 supposedly had no VA? I mean VA is the thing is that is inherently present in virtually all vintages of Musar - that’s how you can nail it so easily in blind tastings - but 1995 has always been the atypically-high-VA vintage! If the 1995 vintage should show something, it’s VA! But I do agree it’s a great vintage.

2012 red Musar, on the other hand, is a horrible vintage to me. I’ve always found it a super overripe, sweet and sugary concoction. An Appassimento or Ripasso version of Musar. In vertical tastings it always does stick out, but usually in a very overripe and somewhat porty way. I guess some people might find that kind of style impressive, but to me, that is like praising a Volnay if it tastes like super ripe Cali Pinot.

Finally, weird to see that you describe “Hochar” as “slightly more modern style than the Chateau Musar bottlings”, because it is vinified exactly the same way as the grand vin. It just comes from a different part of Beqaa and it is typically released a few years earlier, so if you want to check out how the future vintages of Musar are going to be, tasting a freshly released Hochar can give you an indication of how the vintage is going to be stylistically.

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Thanks, everyone, for a great time with (some) great wines.

Musar is super interesting. The red is one of my favorite wines in the world. I don’t love every vintage, and sometimes they show strangely. This tasting had all of those elements, along with some of the greatness that makes Musar so special.

2010 Chateau Musar Blanc out of magnum was a baby still. It was delicious and unique, but I imagine in this format, it will take many years for it to reach its full potential. This might eventually be one of the great, very long-lived whites from Musar.

2008 Chateau Musar Blanc was much more mature. It was very complex, but didn’t quite have the magic of the 2001 that followed.

2001 Chateau Musar Blanc was incredible. It was so complex on the nose, always evolving in the glass and throughout the evening. There was an aldehydic note on the palate that I did not get on the nose. It was suble, but it tells me peak is here and the wine will start a long, gradual decline at this point.

2004 Chateau Musar Rouge strikes me as an elegant vintage. It had all of the Musar magic that I love about these wines, even though there’s almost no tertiary character at this point. Very little VA or brett, but subtle hints that remind you it’s Musar. This is a beautiful wine in the making. I imagine it will be incredible in another 10 years or so. Even on this night, it was a real treat, and a great way for our small sub-group to begin the reds.

2001 Chateau Musar Rouge had a level of VA that I do not expect from this vintage. Obviously there’s a lot of bottle variation with these wines, but having had '01 quite a few times, I do not think this bottle was correct.

2000 Chateau Musar Rouge had that VA and a lot more brett than I prefer. I dont’ know this vintage well, so no idea if that’s typical or not.

1999 Chateau Musar Rouge was nice, but for one of my favorite vintages in general, it didn’t have the magic that I sometimes get here.

2012 Chateau Musar Rouge seemed in a bit of a weird place at first, but some decanter time helped a LOT. It turned out to be a lovely young Musar that reminded me of a younger 1998. It’s one I’m happy to have. Maybe not a great vintage, but clearly a very good one.

1998 Chateau Musar Rouge has shaped up to be a very nice wine, despite its slightly elevated (for Musar) VA. I wrote this vintage off when it was a lot younger, and it has proved to me that I can be very wrong about where some of these wines are headed. This is a really harmonious and complex Musar, even if not the greatest vintage.

1995 Chateau Musar Rouge was insanely good. It made up for some other relative disappointments. It had the least VA of probably any of the reds, maybe other than '04. More importantly. it was like a chameleon in the glass, always changing so much, revealing nuance after nuance every time I went back to it. I would call this fully mature at this point, and it was such a treat to get a good bottle. I’ve had this wine many times, and it’s one of my absolute favorite vintages, maybe rivaled only by the 1981.

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On the 1995 and 2012, this has come up before (regarding '95 specifically). The Broadbent imports we get here seem to be different wines than what you get. I largely agree with Dan on his assessments of these. I liked the 2012 on release and still like it. I don’t find the character you’re describing. I’ve had the 1995 many times and have never found nearly as much VA there as I get in some other vintages. I realize you and the people at Musar have had different experiences, but thoughts on the '95 are basically unanimous among several Musar fanatics I know here in the US.

I also find the Hochar to be cleaner than the Chateau Musar bottlings. Maybe it’s that it’s always so young when I taste it, or possibly lots of other factors, but it does always seem that way to me too.

I remember the 1995 thing, but it’s crazy if this applies to some other vintages as well!

I know Musar is notorious for their bottle variation, but it sounds completely bonkers if the wines are completely different depending on the market, ie. whether they are in the US or in Europe! After all, our bottles come more or less directly from the domaine (either directly purchased at the domaine, or from their importer in Finland, Germany or UK, more or less immediately after release).

So even if there seems to be some bottle variation, the wines are still more or less similar in style, meaning that you can see a consistent style of the wine that remains unchanged, even if the wine performs somewhat differently every time you taste. So it sounds baffling that somehow these vintages turn out to be wildly different from what I taste here when they go across the pond!

Regarding Hochar, I think the recent vintages have been cleaner, but so have been the grands vins as well. And I guess Hochar might be slightly cleaner compared to a grand vin of the same vintage, making it possible to differentiate the wines quite easily blind. However, I’d imagine tasting an older vintage of Hochar and a younger vintage of Musar, they might be more or less at the same levels of “cleanliness”.

This all makes sense to me.

The wine list, excluding the champagne, was:

2022 Musar Jeune Blanc
2010 Musar Blanc en mangum
2008 Musar Blanc
2001 Musar Blanc
2018 Musar Rose
2021 Musar Jeune
2020 Hochar
2012 Musar
2004 Musar
2001 Musar
2000 Musar
1999 Musar
1998 Musar
1995 Musar

The 2010 Blanc was very good but drank young. I loved the 2008 Blanc and was the outlier on the 2001 Blanc, which to me had zero acidity and the wine seemed to collapse on the midpalate.

This was my first time with the Rose. It was steely but bright; a unique wine if nothing else.

The 2004 was nice, as was the 1998, but the 1995 was the best of the evening. There was some VA on it, but it was subtle rather than the direct assault that some of the other reds presented.

I took home a few leftover bottles from the event and tasted them on day 2. The 2010 Blanc was even better, and the 2008 Blanc was even fruitier and had a nice sweetness to it, while the 1998 red had developed a stewed tomato note, of which I am not a fan.

Was a good night in Portland. Nice to meet @DougS and many others. I stopped at Taco Escobarr after for a Pacifico and burrito; not a bad Thursday night!

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Great notes and conversation here, always nice to relive the experience through different eyes.

Here is my take:

MUSAR BLANC
2010- Crisp clean apple fruit, granny smith cider acidity and baked gala roundness with subtle layers of citrus, lemon oil and underlying spices of nutmeg cinnamon and corriander.
Super young and fresh considering its 15 years old but possible due to its magnum size packaging

2008- Deep golden bordering on copper with aromas of waxy muskmelon, bruised apple, dusty wheat berries and ginger snaps.
Palate follows with a baked apple, bruised pear oxidized orchard fruit base that is lifted with underlying citrus oils, hints of nutty complexity that had glimpses of herbal nuances ranging from warm spices to light sage and fennel prawns.

2001- Deep orange copper color with an austere nose leaning into barber shop lanolin and shoe polish but also opening up into some oxidative fruit and nutty sherry like undertones.
The palate was far softer and suppler than the 2008 with much less acidity and evolving nuances. Peach pits, leather, nougat, apricot marmalade and lemon oils swirl through the palate with soft almond and roasted hazelnut accents that evoke a soft bitterness that flows through the finish. Masculine yet elegant, highlight of the night for me!

MUSAR ROUGE (Listed in order I sipped)
2004-Lifted and elegant from start to finish. Fruit is well integrated with touches of fine tannin and restrained but quenching acidity. Perfumed red fruits mingle with power but grace, layers of blueberry, plum skins, dried cherry and fragrant violets. Underlying iron like minerality, much like an elegant jus served alongside the most tender of lamb as opposed to dense blood. Savory herbal accents of lavender, sage and thyme dance through the lively palate adding complexity and length. Tremendous wine and a standout among the vintages shared.

2001 & 2000 - Oxidated, brettanomyces forward with hints of ketchup and sharp VA. I found this wine like the 2001 to be unfortunately flawed and it highlighted the worst parts of the story this wine told for the evening.
None of these flavors that this wine exuded were absent in the other bottles opened but this wine took those accents that I sometimes even found charming in other vintages and dialed them up to a point that was not pleasant to drink for me.

2012- Time open was friendly to this vintage as initially it succumbed to an animalistic bretty nose with some dank basement funk but did initially show some elegance and restraint on the palate… after a couple hours sitting in the decanter that animalistic funk gassed off and opened to an exuberant yet elegant wine that crept up the ladder of the evenings highlights. Nuanced red fruits and fleshy blueberry fruit are interwoven with peppery spice, lavender and mountain mint that danced and evolved through the palate as touches of blood orange zest settled into the breadth of the wine and shined on the finish.

1999- Punchy VA on the nose with lots of funky red fruits interwoven with some dark plummy accents and nuances of pepper, deli meat and stewed red fruits.
Palate follows the nose with some glimpses of finesse but overall a bit shrouded in funky mystery and power that never quite opened into a cohesive wine that would allow me to dive into its depths without finding a distraction from awkward tertiary notes like leather, wet basement and oxidized strawberry juice. Some whispers of greatness but never loud enough to lure me away from the more stellar vintages opened this evening.

1998- Funky nose with traces of VA and animalistic cellar dust & fur leading into some stewy black fruits apparent on the nose with glimpses of elegant perfumed red fruits.
Palate is brighter and more concise than the nose led my palate to expect but still has a backbone of that gaminess. Red fruits and iron minerality shine but with some time in the glass there was some elegance that danced along the acidity and created a floral violet and blood orange accent to the stewiness that gave it life and exuberance. Yes some of the complexity was challenging but I think the sum of the parts made it a treat to sip and evolve into a thought provoking and exciting wine.

1995- Inviting and complex aromas ranging from stewed red fruits, black olives, peppered cranberry sauce and nutty peach pits mingle with soft leather, earthy violets and dried yarrow.
Palate was perfumed and precise with a woven fabric of austerity and elegance. Soft approachable red fruits ebb and flow with dried cranberry and raisin meandering into a masculine leather, dry aged deli meat, slightly syrah-esque nuance that dries out into a floral finessed finish. A journey of a wine that takes you to the edge of the cliff at moments but instead of cowering back to safe ground, an open mind and child like curiosity allows a glimpse of greatness that only time in a bottle can possess. A true treat to experience!

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Thanks for all the notes folks! I’m a big fan of Musar in its various forms, and by coincidence I enjoyed a 2000 red this evening. The key thing I noticed was that on my bottle the acidity only settled down about 6 hours after I decanted it. It has long been my philosophy that with red Musars the latest you can decant it for dinner is at lunchtime, but if you can decant it when you wake up so much the better. And even the whites and rosés in many vintages benefit from several hours of air.

(I’m referring above to the Chateau wines. The Jeunes are good to go after maybe any hour, the Hochars red in my experience benefits from 2 or 3 hours. Popping and pouring a bottle of any Musar should be a criminal offence!)

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I will give you an “Amen!” on that. :wine_glass:

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Great note. 1995 is one of the all time great Musars, at least going back to 1990 vintage. At least in my experience.

Re bottle/VA variation in the 1995:

Dan, if you’re very VA averse Musar is not the producer for you…