Interesting to hear that, as it does not line-up with my lazy observations. But I have no shares of '09 Bdx., so take my disinterested observations with a few grains of salt, I suppose.
Correction: I have one bottle of '09: a mag of Lanessan. They knocked it out of the park in '09.
Outside the 1st Growths, which ones are higher today than they were in 2009?
I did like the freshness of the ‘22. Not something I associate with either 2009 or 2015. Worth tasting a few, but I tend to be value driven, and would not buy at current prices with so many better alternatives.
Thanks, Mark. Now that my Bdx holdings are at a level that could operate as my lifetime supply, I’m much pickier with my purchases, with an eye towards developing greater cellar diversity. Sounds like I should dip my toes if/when I start seeing some discounting, if at all.
I bought maybe 30 or more wines and the vast majority are up, ranging from more than what I paid to dramatically over the original price.
where did you buy from ? US retailers ?
With the threat of tariffs, I’ve been cautious about buying prearrival wines without guarantees of price increases from said tariffs. The 2016 Latour is definitely a wine I want to buy, but I had to guarantee from potential sellers that the tariffs wouldn’t impact my perceived purchase cost if they were to happen.
Total Wine is selling at $715/btl for 6+, and the fine print says you can refuse delivery of the order for a refund if tariffs were to come into effect.
Vint Marketplace is where I buy a lot of my champagne with great results and they had the lowest price I seen at $699/btl. Unlike other prearrival retailers, they didn’t mention anything about tariffs being automatically passed to the consumer. I have messaged with Adam at Vint and he has noted that they have a warehouse in Europe that they can hold prearrival orders at in the event of tariffs coming into effect. I ultimately have decided to go with Vint as I’ve had good successes with their orders and don’t mind waiting for my wine as I don’t plan on opening these bottles for at least a decade.
Curious how much you are paying for a pallet air vs container? 5x? More?
Maybe, maybe not. If they didn’t sell the wine, it was clearly overpriced. If they sold it at those prices and today the prices have held firm, it sounds like the market says they priced it almost perfectly. Of course a consumer would have rather paid less, but when isn’t that the case. It’s like Harlan release prices the past decade - they are basically 1-1 with the secondary market pricing, but they are still selling out each year. So it’s in essence priced perfectly, though I as a consumer hate it.
Yes, 100%. I bought as soon as the wines were offered
If there is less wine here in the US, and most of it was sold in China, then we are dealing with some scarcity, which of course affects the price.
Probably 6x to 10x.
