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Recently purchased a couple bottles of Kapcsandy Grand Vin State Lane. The bottles I received indicate Kapcsandy State Lane. Is this “Grand Vin”? Their website is not clear and I’m concerned I may have overpaid the seller (WB member) for Grand Vin and received State Lane. Anyone know what “Grand Vin” signifies and if it’s the same thing as State Lane Vineyard?

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Should be noted that the vintage I purchased is 2004. There is nothing on the bottle with “Grand Vin”.

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Phill,
I had the same question on a couple of my Kapcsandy bottles from 2006 (even Maggies) . Bottom line is if it DOES NOT say "ESTATE " it is a Grand Vin . The State Lane is the vineyard for all the grapes.

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Grand Vin didn’t start appearing on the bottles until the 07 vintage. Prior to that, the Grand Vin is designated by the Cabernet Sauvignon on the label. Estate Cuvee has Estate Cuvee on the label. Not sure if there was a Grand Vin in 04. They didn’t start Grand Vin, Roberta’s and Estate Cuvee until 05.

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the early state lane wines 03 and 04 were I believe bdx blends. As Jeff pointed out they did not make a grand vin or Roberta’s till 2005. You might want to contact the seller.

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No,No,No !
Before you start a WW’04 Here is the real story ! The NON ESTATE LABEL would be the GV & 98 Parker !
Wine Advocate #212
Apr 2014 Robert M. Parker, Jr. 98 Drink: 2014 - 2034 $300 (300)
In 2005, the Kapcsandy family put the words “Grand Vin” on the label and began to produce at least three separate cuvees. This 2004 was a tiny crop for them, largely harvested August 30 to mid-September, because of the extraordinary heat wave (104 to 109 degrees between September 5-8). The final blend of 60% Cabernet Sauvignon and 40% Merlot was a rarity given the fact that production from the vineyard was subdivided into other cuvees starting in 2005. The 2004 performed spectacularly and the good news is that 1,200-1,300 cases were produced. Showing better than it did in its infancy, this blend of 60% Cabernet Sauvignon and 40% Merlot has an inky purple color as well as notes of lead pencil shavings and scorched earth that resemble a great Graves, blackberry and creme de cassis fruit, licorice and subtle smoky barbecue. It also reveals a full-bodied texture, stunning concentration and beautiful richness. This is the only time the Kapcsandys made this particular blend and it certainly is performing incredibly well at age ten. It’s one of the superstars of the vintage and should continue to drink well for another 15-20 years.

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Ned- Parker might have given it a 98 and it might be a great wine and it probably was their top end wine for that vintage but it’s a BDX blend. The Grand Vin designation is for their top end Cabernet( best of the best blocks/barrels) that they started doing in 05. I wouldn’t be surprised if some of the Cab blocks that currently go into GV were used for it( Perhaps Lou will see this as he surely knows).

Helen Turley was the winemaker at the time and while I have not had this 04 I would not put in on par with the current Grand Vin cabs as Lou is much more involved, the vines are older and they know a lot more about what they are getting out of each block. I certainly would seek some of this out but would not pay close to current market value of the Grand Vin Cab.

No need for WW 4 and my opinion only champagne.gif

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I stand with my statement , as the Non Estate labeled Cab should be referred to as the GV , also is a blend of CS,Merlot & CF .
I have Maggies of the '06 , bought from Kapcsandy , without “ESTATE” on them , that ARE the GV, per Kapcsandy.

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I just checked my remaining '05 GV, and the words do not appear anywhere on the label. As stated up thread, it simply reads State Lane Vyd Cabernet Sauvignon. No mention of ‘Estate’ or ‘Cuvée’

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Jody

That is right. They started producing the Grand Vin in 05, but it was labeled Cabernet Sauvignon. I had a conversation directly with Lou on this topic. Grand Vin didn’t appear on the label until 07. What now everyone is treating Parker as gospel? [wow.gif]

Jeff

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PARKER !!!