I need to buy more Joseph Drouhin

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Had a 2009 saturday. Great stuff. The bottle was quickly empty.

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I had a 05 Beaune Champimonts on Saturday. Very tasty in the candy-like way I associate with Beaune. Also very interesting intersection of the house style and vintage signature.

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I had a killer deal on some 07 Clos de Mouche blanc, bought the remaining 9 bottles from the local importer who couldn’t justify selling these for 100+ to anyone. Picked them up for 20 dollars a bottle, so far they’re drinking good, getting more nuanced in the last two months, no sign of premox in the last year or so.

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Have 6 bottles in route, anxious to try one.

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Love me some Drouhin and I think their most overlooked wines are the Clos St. Denis/Clos Vougeot. Their best value wine has got to be their Cote de Nuits Villages which always drinks well on release. All of their Chambolle wines are superb especially Amoureuses… Yum!

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Funny. When my wife and I tasted the 09 Mouches at IPNC in 2011, she immediately gave me an elbow and said “Get some of this” - which is not something she does often. Fortunately Crush is on my speed dial, and I made the purchase before our glasses were empty. As an aside, drank a 90 Mouches yesterday that, while not a rock star, was quite enjoyable. Crush has a couple in inventory at a reasonable price, which is where this bottle was from.

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You guys are such enablers. I just bought 12 2010 mouches rouge and now you have me thinking of getting more. Anybody try the 2010’s yet?

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Better than the '09. Get more.

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yes. 6 month ago. It was reductive and didn’t give up much. An 09 Mouches rouge was also reductive at the Domaine in May, so it’s probably just something that needs to integrate in the bottle.

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Correct, on both counts.

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Hmmm…I live in Quebec, Canada Drouhin’s wines ( both red and white ) move very slow here due to price and also it needs bottle-age. newhere

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I love Burgs made in an elegant style with delicate texture, so long as there is natural concentration and genuine intensity on the palate. But elegant without the intensity is just a weak, wimpy wine, IMO. And some Drouhin wines seem on the wimpy side, to me. I’ve often wondered if the filtration is the reason…? Whether due to the filters or something else, I regard Drouhin as a good producer rather than a great one, although selected wines are great. Just my $0.02.

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It would be interesting to know at which of the large negociants are found the best negociant wines, according to the board? I think Drouhin has it if one considers all levels.

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I prefer to buy wines from producers who own and farm the land.

Unless I have no choice, why should I buy negoc wines from Drouhin ( except perhaps Drouhin’s Montrachet ) [cheers.gif] ?

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I think that’s a widely held prejudice which is often not borne out by tasting, Peter.

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There are so many ways to differentiate quality level, so let us not get things too complicate.

If customers refer to buy negoc wines, I am very happy for all the wine producers in Burgundy as not many of them were lucky enough to own their lands there.

But beauty is in the eye of beholder, so they say. I am guilty as charged because I am prejudice ( or = bias ) about Burgundy wines. pileon

I did many comparative-tastings of domaine-wine by Drouhin, for example : Ech, Chambertin, RSV and Musigny from vintage 1995 and 1996. They appears to need more years.

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Tom…how about Jadot ? [wink.gif]

Mind you, I should not post any answer to your above message - because I seldom buy negoc wines from Jadot !! pileon

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Then just buy their Domaine bottlings. Though some of the negociant bottlings are top notch (others I’m less fond of).

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Interesting. So no Jayer Cros Parantoux for you because the vines were entrusted to him by Meo? None of the Leroy wines prior to 1988?
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Of the big negociant / domaines I prefer Drouhin so much more than Jadot, Faiveley and Bouchard. Their Clos de Vougeot and Clos St. Denis are very much overlooked. We have had the '01 CdV twice in the last year and it is outstanding. I would add both the Grands Echezeaux and Griotte too to as under the radar.

For roughly $29 a bottle the Cote de Beaune [not to be confused with their Cote de Beaune-Villages labeling] is hard to beat, contains declassified Mouches in it. The wines were a little off after '05 when Laurence Jobard retired [now at Domaine Billard], but they are really returning to their former glory. Sadly '05 was the last year they had great qpr on the tops wines in their portfolio, but there is still value.

The wine I would like to acquire is the '05 Mouches that was made on the press from the 1600’s. I do not think it is going to be released until 2015 and will have both blanc and rogue in a wooden case.