Ok, let’s not get carried away now…these kinds of dinners are not normally my thing but if this is going on in my area and someone wants to invite me for free, I won’t say no.
My excessibe balla wine nights are shared moments of joy and passion among dear friends.
Other people’s are garish and wasteful displays.
What were the price points on these? Or were they the BYO ones that you mentioned that you organize?
BYO. Most people brought two bottles, some 3.
Mind if I ask what parameters you used to suggest which wines for people to bring and/or confirm or deny the ones they offer to?
Usually a small group starts with a theme based on some conversation. We then define the producers and create options based on a balanced selection. Then we start to reach out to others and see their interest and availability. It’s an ever evolving process until we reach the final flights. Actually those menus I posted aren’t quite what ended up on the table due to late additions and swaps.
Is anyone certain that the DRCs will be closed? more than with some other producers the wines can be wonderful young but there’s only one way to find out, unfortunately. A recent 2009 Richebourg was quintessential and quite spectacular and I am very happy to bet that there will be no moment in its life at which it will achieve greater perfection.
That menu does look intimidatingly indigestible.
I had the 14 RSV in 21 and it was still closed but I heard the 14s were starting to come around.
I know a whole lot less about Burgundy than many board members. From my limited knowledge, I thought 2014 was overall a mediocre vintage for red Burgundy while excellent for white.
What say you all (or, this being Texas, y’all)?
Having said as much, I think the price is reasonable as an opportunity to taste that many great wines, but I personally would find it difficult to appreciate them all. If the pours are 2 ounces, that’s exactly a bottle per person. I would be happier to pay half that much for half the food and half the wine.
Dan Kravitz
14 is a good vintage but a bit overshadowed by the two vintages following it.
If y’all want to be offended, check out Acker’s “Top 100 Wines of the Century” weekends in the early aughts. I’m not sure how many years it lasted, but I was living in NY at the time, in my late 20s, and seem to recall it was three dinners and a lunch or two. 100 of the best wines of the previous hundred years consumed over two or three days. Think they were 15-20k. Likely included some Rudy bottles, though I recall dinners at Zachy’s and Christie’s around the same time with consignors who appeared to have solid provenance, receipts, etc.
I think about that brisket dinner at your apartment often. That was gluttonous.
Out of the gates, I found 2014 very promising as a mid-weight vintage I might like, in the vein of 2001 or 2008 though stylistically a bit different, but not at the level of 2015 or 2019, for example.
It could be the wines I have more than the vintage, as I have not tried many lately, but I am not as high on 2014 reds as I once was. As with 2012, many of which were real sex-bombs out of the gate, with time there seems to be greater inconsistency emerging with some wines seeming they will become a bit austere. And almost all of them have been quite unready- and I would have expected many 2014s to already be showing well.
Either way, I would not want to touch 2014 DRC magnums at this point in time.
Not tacky, but ill-conceived. Too much pasta, imbalanced array of proteins, generally heavy courses (pasta, sauce choices, excess of red meats), generally immature wines and mixing 4 Bordeaux legends indiscriminately.
It may seem picky- but for those prices I think it is fair to expect something a bit better thought out.
With a more intelligently arrayed group of courses and wines- you could add 2 courses to this and double the number of wines and I would not have raised any objections.
Again, all IMHO. As I noted above, I see the OP as a highly suggestive question where a wide array of reactions would be defendable.
Could not agree more about this being a sweet wine feast. Price is way out of my budget, but would be fun to eat like Thanksgiving and drink world class wines.
I liked the 2014s on release finding them balanced and lovely in a lighter style but they shut down hard so I haven’t touched any for a while
Steve sorry I missed the post with your old offline menus, (sorry for slight drift). I was at both of those events, cool that you saved the menus! The 2007 Screagle was my first board offline. Someone brought the Neillon Batard, it had no label and was really not great. That was my first time with Screaming Eagle, and I may not have had a bottle since. The First Growth 82 at Bouley was also mind-blowing. I think we had five firsts, plus Cheval and Pichon Lalande. The PL and Latour were WOTN for most of us.
Wonder why the memories of the food are not so engrained as those wines??
I had the 14 Richebourg not that long ago, and it was shockingly good, and not unapproachable.
If the food is 9/10ths as good as the one in NYC, this is an awesome price for this. Dinner is easily $250 a person without wine, and that’s on the low side.
The DRCs are worth more than this dinner.
We just had the 14 Rich in May and it was tight and unyielding. Very little joy found. Same thing two years ago. Nowhere near ready.
I feel like Riche and GE are perhaps the two worst wines to choose for this dinner; would prefer LT and Corton or RSV in terms of being more approachable.