I’m seeing lots of recommendations for Jamet, which has me intrigued. Generally, how much age should Jamet have before it’s at its best. Any particular vintages to be on the lookout for?
1997 Giacomo Conterno Monfortino
1955 Graham’s Port
Hoping to expand a bit this year and get a few higher end bottles if I can hunt them down. '84 Monte Bello is also on deck for next year.
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This makes me cry. My 3 '08 LGAs were all corked.
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ouch. sorry to hear. that is bad luck 
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I bought 2 bottles each of Myriad 2018 Empyrean and George 111 at 175 $ each just to try some high end bottles. Will open one next week to try it out and see if they are “worth” the coin.
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Wow great deal
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Are they ready to drink? I have never had a red wine that expensive that is in a style I like that is ready to drink at 5 years old. Maybe these are different.
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The reviews on CT are very favorable. No doubt they will age but several 95 pt scores from reviwers I feel are very knowledgeable.
18 Elysian was drinking well last august.
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I know nothing of Burgundy, but have been offered some 18 Grivot Vougeot for $55 inside the WS low. Since my head has been in the sand on Burgundy, is Grivot one of those producers worth seeking out? And, it seems 18 was a good vintage, but is that true with Vougeot?
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Whether 2018 was a good vintage depends on producer—the overall takeaway is that it shows its warmth and some handled it better than others. So looking at plot (without regard to producer) isn’t the right question. It should be, “did Grivot make a good 2018 Clos Vougeot?” To that, I don’t know, but someone else on here probably does.
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Thank you! Burgundy scares me so much, I don’t even know the right questions to ask, so this is a very helpful way to frame it for me.
$50 below ws low is $169; it’s probably not a bad but; notes suggest it’s pretty ripe, though. 18 is a vintage that I personally think in time will be good, but some people feel otherwise.
There was another recent thread about this, but look for 98, 99, 00, 01, 04, 06 to drink now. 04/06 are probably the most “affordable”, the 98/99 can be quite expensive these days…
Older Jamet is quite pricey these days. And they are best with 15 years of age, in the best vintages. To get an idea of what Jamet is all about, while not inexpensive, the two most forward vintages in the market today, that I think are drinking great today are 2009 and 2015.
I think the 2014 Jamet is also surprisingly accessible at the moment.
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Good advice. 04 is a nice sleeper vintage and is drinking really well.
Jamet does age glacially and I’d hold anything 07 or younger if at all possible.
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The 12 may be another option. It’s drinking well, but is obviously still very young. I don’t know why, but Jamet tends to be relatively flat price-wise for years and then suddenly shoots up. Old vintages can be VERY expensive, even more so than Chave/Allemand, despite new releases costing less… But if you look at 2012 Jamet vs Allemand, the Jamet is still quite a bit less (although the Allemand is the better wine right now IMHO).
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Honestly, if you’re looking for a Northern Rhone “wow experience” from the producers that have been mentioned here, I would look out for 2012 Allemand Reynard (if you don’t mind drinking younger wines) or really splurge on a 1998 Jamet for something near peak…
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Grivot doesn’t make the best CV IMO. And 18 is not a favorite vintage given the high quality of vintages surrounding it. Also WS low doesn’t necessarily indicate the going rate. That’s just the lowest price the wine isn’t selling at. None of that means you shouldn’t buy the wine, but that it likely isn’t that great of a deal.
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