I got these bottle as part of a larger lot of older wines from a cellar. I know 1965 is not an interesting year and the ullage is poor but I thought why not. Paid almost nothing. I have never seen DRC RSV with this Marey-Monge label. Did DRC start using the standard DRC label for RSV after 1965? The back label is identical to the RC label of the same year.
Kelly,
I had the pleasure of tasting a 1971 mag of RSV. The Morey-Monge label is the same as yours. DRC made the same wine under both labels just putting those Morey-Monge labels on to satisfy the owners of the vineyard? I guess to pay them off for the metayage agreement.
Anyway, this one looks just like the 1971 I had in the past.
That wine I tasted was an almost life changing wine BTW. Absolutely stunning.
It is exactly the same wine just with two different labels if my information is correct. The vineyard changed hands to DRC solely somewhere close to 1989. See you soon.
Don,
Thanks. That is a tidbit I was not aware of but makes perfect sense.
I have no clue if these wines are drinkable. Owner said he purchased them around 1970 on advice of a supplier but had no clue what they were.
thought 1966 was the first vintage with leaser DRC (combination Marey-Monge front label and DRC back or neck label).
So, if Roman is right with the link that RSV would be a fake? The labels look legit to me. I would bet that they did produce wine in 1965 and that was the first year that they had an agreement? Only the DRC folks would know. This is difficult info to obtain btw.
DRC would not have produced a wine in which they didn’t have some vested interest in the vineyard.
fermage, I believe, not metayage.
Thanks Alan.
Hmmm…
Based on Steens article (Winehog) DRC did not lease RSV until 1966. I have absolutely no reason to believe either of the pictured bottles are fake. Who would fake a 1965 much less the Marey-Monge label? Now I am really puzzled.
Looks like a legit bottle to me. Maybe a test run or something?
simply first vintage RSVT DRC is 1966.
here the same;
After 1966,when the Domaine leased the vineyard from Geneviève Marey-Monge,the wine was marketed under the label Romanée-St.Vivant Domaine Marey Monge,decorated with the family coat of arms and many gold medals.A neck label made plain that DRC was responsible for the vineyard and for vinification.
or here from Fine Wine Mag(PDF);
https://finewinemag.subscribeonline.co.uk/static_content/the-finewinemag/downloads/DRC_by_Kolm.pdf
here is also 1965 Jahrhundertweine.de - Weinraritäten, Jahrgangsweine, alte Weine aus Bordeaux, Burgund, Italien und Deutschland
from here comes many bottles;
http://www.idealwine.com/uk/acheter-vin/A9002596-433-Romanee-Saint-Vivant-Grand-Cru-Domaine-Leroy-Marey-monge-1965-Burgundy.jsp
La Tâche--Vintage 1965Bottle no's 9509, 9510, 9511. One good appearance level 4cms. One slightly bin-soiled label, slightly damaged neck label, level 4.5cms. One slightly stained label and stained vintage neck label, slightly depressed cork, level 5.5cms below bottom of capsule(3)Richebourg--Vintage 1965Bottle no's 6082, 6083, 6084. Two slightly bin-soiled labels, one slightly marked with a red pen. Levels: Two 4.5cms and one 6cmsbelow corks(3)Romanée-Saint-Vivant--Vintage 1965Marey Monge. Slightly damaged and corroded capsules. Levels: one 3.5cms, one 6.5cms below corks(2)Grands-Echézeaux--Vintage 1965Bottle no. 2993. Slightly bin-soiled label. Level 6cms(1)All Domaine de la Romanée-Conti. In original wooden, Domaine case | Christie's
PS;think Marey-Monge labeled 1965 so,but no label from DRC.
I suspect it is real Kelly. Please report back how it drinks.
sure is real, a real from Domaine Marey-Monge.
Have had a few bottles from this period, they have been anything form very ordinary to great.
Had a great '71, and kept the bottle. It has the same front label, but with a DRC neck strip, and nothing on the back.
All looks real to me, but otherwise all I can say is:
the 1964 RSV Marey-Monge I have tasted had no DRC-back-label whatsoever …
it was vg but on the “very old” side …
But why the back label Roman? That is the curiosity. Whether the wine was made by DRC instead of a winemaker hired by Marey-Monge family.
Also sorry I was addressing both bottles. The other is an RC from 1965 not RSV. That is my mistake. Only the Marey-Monge bottle is in question.
Whether the wine was made by DRC instead of a winemaker hired by Marey-Monge family
interesting is the back label from the DRC RC 1965! on this picture have also in the Text “Romanée St.Vivant Marey-Monge” but is naturally labeled at a later time (1967 or 1968) and at this time is the sentence right.
have DRC eventually sold the 1965 RSVT from Domaine Marey-Monge under DRC-label or simply for Marey-Monge?
Or bought later the 1965 RSVT casks from Marey-Monge?
Is simply terrible that is all so complicated and not really clarified with tons of books,interviews…
is it really so difficult to ask specifically "Mr. Villaine was about the 1965 RSVT "?only sold or vinified or labeled? 
PS;or is simply a mistake(or purposely “mistake”) from a loses label.
Thanks Roman.
It is an interesting dilemma.
DRC would be the most likely folks to clarify it for sure.
Since the 65 was in barrel when the deal with DRC was cut maybe they agreed to market the wine ?
Thanks to all for this discussion. To me, it is very interesting.
Looks like Remoissenet distributed a lot of Marey-Monge RSV wines before DRC took over in 1966? It might be impossible to find out who actually made this wine.
I like Roman’s and Nick’s explanation. It does make sense.
