Jay try to find a 2017 or 2014. David Hamburger from Acker just did a huge white burgundy offer today.
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Iād look for Lafon Charmes. 2013 or more recent. Awesome producer who is using diam so you can rest easy.
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Perfect match! Nice duo of Raveneaus; 18 Chablis and 14 Mont Mains should have been drinking perfectly.
I know we are talking about white burgs, but that Taittinger CdC was crazy good with the rolls this summer.
Raveneau still on my must-try list too
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Didnāt @Fred_Bower say he was going to pour some for us before the end of the year? 
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Oh thatās right. We need to make that happen since you all talked me off it on that wine list lol
Leeuwin Estate Chardonnay Art Series is a great lobster wine and should be readily available near you. It is very consistent and under screwcap. Any vintage from the past decade should provide pleasure. It is kind of Australiaās answer to BĆ¢tard-Montrachet.
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Woah now. I believe you should experience both Raveneau and Pogi dominance in the same trip!
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If you love white Burgundy Iād want to have it, thatās great, but I think champagne is a much better pairing.
I expect that Jayās palate runs toward riper and bigger styles of white Burgundy, and that heās not averse to some nice oak, even with the lobster pairing. With that in mind, and with what I think Jay would want to drink, Iād strongly suggest a bottle of 2019 or 2022 Coche Meursault village, both of which are drinking beautifully now and are framed by some brilliant oak. Itās not a small production and shouldnāt be too hard to find. The 2022 is drinking very well from a bunch of recent experiences. In the alternative, Lafon Charmes from the same vintages would also be a great alternative; Charmes drinks a bit earlier and is the Domaineās most consistent wine. Current Ramonet which is made in a rounder style than in the past is a good suggestion as well - the Grand Ruchottes if you can find it - but itās not yet under DIAM and Ramonet 2019 and 2020s havwe had issues.
If you have access to something a bit older, given the lobster pairing, Iād suggest a Raveneau from 2010 or 2014, which is a brilliant combination of freshness and fruit. I wouldnāt choose to pair younger Raveneau with lobster - a Meursault with some oak will do the job better (and cheaper).
Some people have suggested Champagne; I do not think lobster suffers from being paired with white Burgundy, but there are plenty of great blanc de blancs in whicher style Jay prefers.
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Agree on the last point (donāt eat Lobster so cannot comment on the first point). I once did a Riedel tasting where they showed how different wines showed better with different glasses. They did not compare the Chardonnay in the Chardonnay glass to the Chardonnay in the Burg glass. I liked how it tasted as well or better in the Burg glass. Since we got a set of Riedels with the tasting price, I have two of the Chardonnay glasses (and many Burg glasses) and have done the comparison a few times. Never have seen any reason to use the Chardonnay glass instead of the Burg glass.
In fact, since Champagne is largely Pinot and Chardonnay I generally use the Burg glass for Champagne also. The bubbles may look better in a flute, I can smell the wines better in the Burg glass.
Fabulous years for white Burg.
Question for you Robert. I know that you are a huge fan of 2021 German wines. Does that follow with Burgundy also. Have not had enough 2021 whites to be sure but I have really liked the 2021 reds that I have had. Real throw back vintage.
2017 Latour Giraud meursault pierre. The 2020 was also great.
@MackS @wbkeene it turns out that I like to make lobster rolls too and I am very biased toward Champagne as the match-up. I am willing to throw some nice Burgs into the mix to show why bubbles are better. Winning is winning.
fred
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Definitely love 2021 Reds in Burgundy. Drank a lot of them early on and really enjoyed the aromatic profile and lightness. For some reason I have not had many whites.
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I guess it depends on the WB and Champagne being compared, but we almost always flight WB with lobster.
21 whites are fine. Better than 18 and 23, but not much else since 17.
Jay,
Where in Maine? I can recommend some stores depending on if youāre near Portland or Bar Harbor. Doug S (from this forum) works in Portland and he has some great selections in the store he works in (if youāre near Portland)
Thoughts of wines that pair really well with Maine Lobster - high end Chenin Blanc: grapes the wine co in NY has Clos Rougeard Breze for $399/bottle.
Get a Huet Sec from any vineyard for 1/10th the price and that will also be a great pairing.
If you really want white burgundy then Iād suggest you seek out any of the Bachelet Monnot 1ers they pair beautifully with Lobster.
As others have notedā¦Raveneau is singular and will pair perfectly with lobster.
Happy Birthday & I hope you enjoy your time in Maine.
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The 2008 was great, but I prefer still wine with seafood. I may go for the Raveneau. Although many people have suggested that it is not worth the price and is only marginally better than other Grand Cru Chablis, I am thinking that for this birthday may be I will go for it if I can find a good bottle.
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Lots of great wine suggestions here, so I have nothing to add on this front. This lobster roll, however, needs improving upon. It is established fact that the Connecticut style lobster roll is vastly superior to whatever cold, sad, mayo-saturated ālobster-rollā perversion you are pairing with that otherwise beautiful Raveneau.
My best advice for Jay, even in Maine, is to find the very best Connecticut style lobster roll you can find. That will elevate your dining experience as much as any wine choice.
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