Just curious about Zbiotics & electrolytes, vs straight alone. I find taking so many capsules ruins the fun a little bit, so I’m wondering if just going without DHM entirely is fine.
Have you ever just tried Pregame? I wasn’t aware of them. Looks like DHM + NAC (like the DHM Wellness Essentials) + 2 other botanicals.
Yeah, I used Pregame plus Cheers with electrolytes a bunch previously before trying TWF. Had mixed results, which sent me searching for a different option.
I’m about to order some ZBiotics. If anyone has an affiliate code/link, send it my way and I’ll enter it so you get the benefit.
Thanks Michael, just submitted the order.
Am hoping for a bezerker day offer that is good for the 50 pack or 100 pack
I’m looking forward to reading your conclusions about Myrkl, Michael, and how do you feel it compares with Zbiotics.
Zbiotics is not available in Spain, so I have been unable to try it and compare it with Myrkl. From what I have read the compounds of both products are similar but there might be differences that affect performance.
As I have explained before I have not made any real scientific study of the effects of Myrkl (i.e. making sure I drink the exact amount of alcohol with and without the product and then measure BAC in both instances). What I can say is that normally I am pretty good at guessing my BAC based on how I feel. But when I take Myrkl I feel as if my BAC is much lower than it actually is (when I measure it).
If that is the only effect (feeling better but having equally high BAC) I am not sure I’d be interested. Actually, perhaps it is better to feel worse so you stop drinking earlier. Let’s see what your conclusions are!
Another good experience with electrolytes + Toast + TWF + Zbiotics. Running on 4 hours sleep after a third big night in a row and feeling no worse for wear.
I think the double whammy of Zbiotics working in the gut to help less alcohol make it into the bloodstream and the supplements that work with the liver on what does make it into the blood is the key, along with hydration. I don’t think it really matters as much precisely which liver supplements such as Toast / Pregame / TWF / Cheers as they all work fairly effectively and in similar enough ways.
Well I think it is supposed to lower your BAC, at least that’s what it did in the research studies. We’ll see.
I am fascinated by Zbiotics. I am now on board with this. Metabolism of ethanol in the body isn’t cut and dried. The fact is that at least a moderate percentage of ethanol undergoes first pass metabolism to acetaldehyde in the stomach. This acetaldehyde is absorbed and presented to the liver for conversion to acetate by acetaldehyde dehydrogenase (ALDH). This is the enzyme that this probiotic bacteria produces and will perform this function in the stomach and intestine for you taking the stress of the % of alcohol undergoing first pass metabollism in the stomach (whatever it is… research is ongoing here) off of the liver. As blood alcohol rises this becomes an even more important pathway and produces more toxic acetyaldhyde.
I am going to give this a try.
I think you’ll like it, I’ve found it quite effective. I have high hopes for Myrkl as well given the clinical data.
Try it on a night when you may consume more than average. And pair with the electrolytes.
How do you check your BAC?
Breathalyzer he said before I believe
Drink more water, better diet, drink less. You can use indomethacin, but thats really just like taking tylenol after the fact. Allopurinol is the way to go if you get bad events or they happen often
Yep. Breathalyzer.
Question here on electrolytes:
I have AFib and my big trigger is salt. I try to minimize salt where I can, and it looks like the electrolyte mixes recommended here are all heavy on sodium.
For those of us trying to minimize sodium, what is the electrolyte best practice for pre-drinking prep or post-drinking recovery (I already use Zbiotics with good results and am about to test WineFix)?
I mean, if you’re essentially taking a diuretic (alcohol) the electrolytes are trying to get you back to normal in terms of electrolyte/fluid status. Obviously there are certain populations who shouldn’t take a bolus of electrolytes. Alcohol is also a common trigger for a fib as well, so obviously talk to your cardiologist about that, as well as electrolyte balance.
While I am a physician, none of these protocols should be considered medical advice.
“Dr Berg” brand has an electrolyte mix that has surprisingly little sodium. It’s marketed as a “hydration” product as well.
That is pretty low sodium for sure, there’s another one called magma that is lower sodium too but not that low.