Have you dealt with LJ McLeod? (Mod edit)

His forum and his rule on posting in CC (which is absurd in my opinion), there for it happened on his watch and he should comment. Obviously he is sending one of his moderators to keep him distanced from the issue as once again he does not want to be the bad guy here.

I am sorry to see this post from you, Charlie.

As a follow up, he must have the IP from the original posts here and could narrow down a geographic location.

The geographic location is already known…

Really? Seems like lots of conflicting info. I would like to see where the posting originated, but that is just me.

Why?

To me this is not a Todd issue. I was stupid and didn’t do my homework. Now I am paying for it, but it won’t happen again.

The reason I’m involved is because I was the first mod contacted about this issue. So first come first serve. I was contacted by multiple ppl and I have encouraged every one to come on here and post as much info together to find a solution. I also do a lot of the policing on this sub forum as I’m more involved in than any of the other mods.

I have the same ability as Todd to view ip origin. I was asked that at the very beginning privately and I saw nothing out of the ordinary. I’ll look through each post later tonight to see if there’s anything to glean.

Let’s try and keep this on track. Bill if you have a vendetta against Todd this isn’t the thread to bring it in. There’s a lot of good information being added and I hope we see more. If anyone affected thinks we (the mods) can provide more information I would be happy to help.

I looked up a significant number of his posts through a more comprehensive geo locator than our WHOIS (which sometimes is off) and it shows up as the Denver, Colorado area. Unfortunately it just shows the location of his internet provider Qwest.

So this confirms what I saw before and what everyone is aware of already

PayPal account lists Alexandra Greer. Maybe try working through this person? Obviously this individual is either part of it or is being used.

I did purchase some wine from OP. When he sent 3 instead of 2 bottles of one lot he did actually credit my paypal.

So I had no real financial loss.

However, the wines received did have some minor label issues. Nothing major but I would have preferred to have known about it. Also the advertising of 3 and shipping 2 was slightly odd.

He later reached out to me to try to sell more, on other lots I had made him an offer on. At that point he said he wasn’t accepting electronic payments (I forget his reason why) and asked for a check. I did not affirmatively discount his intentions but I was just extremely busy with work (actually was in Napa - yeah!) and travelling home and it never got to the actionable level on my radar.

Sorry for those of you who got burned. I am willing to meet with any of you sometime if I am nearby and share a bottle to help ease the pain (and mainly to get to know you!)

Sorry for the people that got taken advantage of.

When I PM’d him, he was very pushy and couldn’t keep his story straight regarding provenance of the wines. Sometimes, he said he was on the mailing list and sometimes he said he bought the exact same wine at auction. So, I didn’t buy anything from him.

He also was giving me free shipping on the Plumpjack.

He told me he is in Denver, CO.

Person
Lyndon J Mcleod, age 43

Locations
Denver, CO
San Antonio, TX
Boerne, TX
Littleton, CO
Oxford, OH

Relatives
Pamela Mcleod
Lee Mcleod

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He also said the following:
"A proposition then:

I’d discount it all (both posts) down from $16,500 to $15,500 and free shipping.

Then I’d envy YOU. :wink:

Think it over. Don’t say “ok!” right away.

Lyndon"

Those who used PayPal can file a dispute with them.

FYI for anyone reading this with under 25 posts, you will post and it won’t show up because of the forum requirement, I will approve it once I am notified.

Thanks Charlie. I’m new here and was wondering if I pushed “delete” instead of “submit”. Please disregard my second almost identical comment.

Here’s what I got from a quick google search. If you got scammed, you might want to call those numbers and see if you can get in touch with him. Or pool your money and hire a PI like someone mentioned earlier.

I wouldn’t normally post private information such as this, but given the situation that he scammed so many people…here’s the info I found from google. If this isn’t appropriate, Charlie the moderator, no need to post. Thanks!

Lyndon Mcleod
Age: 43 Years Old
Location: Denver, CO
May be related to:
Brandee Beauregard, Lee Mcleod, Barry Mcleod

90 S Bryant St, Denver, CO 80219
(303) 469-9947


(210) 698-2383

This person below might be related to him or the landlord.

Ann D Studwell, ~58
(303) 465-9201

This 11-26-2016 pdf of home sales at the Denver Post tells us that he sold the Bryant St home…

http://extras.denverpost.com/home-sales/home-sales-11-26-16.pdf

This image from Facebook is your likely culprit…

https://scontent.ford4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-1/c159.0.1731.1731/1957936_1378208069123489_1212594199_o.jpg?oh=c4df486c12bd44bcd414121eb4994759&oe=59873B73

This Andrea Mason in Denver is his only listed friend…

https://www.facebook.com/andrea.mason.75641

Oddly, that Andrea Mason lists another Andrea Mason as a friend in Denver…

https://www.facebook.com/andrea.mason.7315?fref=pb&hc_location=friends_tab&pnref=friends.all

Maybe LaMarche is trying to throw us off LJ’s scent?

With regards to location, it’s tough to nail that down based on IP addresses as often they show server farms, which may not necessarily be the exact location, or even region.

First, sorry to everyone who’s been burned. Hope there’s some resolution / punishment if it is indeed fraud.

An idea: a “two factor” authentication for commerce corner in particular. Instead of validation through a review of a sale, a WB community member (someone who’s met other WBers through tasting cricles or offlines) has to vouch for the person as a member of the wine community (person attends tasting, wine group, local store event, etc…).

As it becomes more obvious for scam artists to game 25 posts / 1-2 positive sale reviews to ultimately dupe later sales, I think tightening the rules around CC at the expense of maybe some “market participation” or crowding out hermits may make sense.

How about flip to risk profile for newbie participants to CC?

If they are unknown, have them ship product first and then be paid upon receipt. Observe risk of course applies, but seller could discriminate to whom he sells based on some internal WB verification board (list of trustworthy buyers).

Why should buyers take all the risk?