I would characterise as Burgundian somewhat broadly, i.e. not in a Chablis vein, nor in a Cote d’Or vein. Lower alcohols than Burgundy, lively acidity and “salty” or “bitter” minerality, clean texture and what I perceive as quite lower extract - i.e. gentler textured. No more oak flavour than good Chablis.
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Thanks, your description really allows me to imagine what it tastes like. It may not be my kind of Chardonnay actually, but I’m still hoping to try and see it myself!
Makes sense, thanks for clarifying. Had a feeling I was missing out on something important when Maciej mentioned FOMO, prices, etc.
If someone gets the chance to taste the weingut wines along side with Johannes’ personality project then it would also be interesting to hear thoughts on how they compare given that he seems to be the winemaker for both. At least based on the pricing the former should also be rather ambitious wines.
I haven’t really thought about it that much, but there have been previous movements. For example, consider the Klitzekleiner Ring or the Leiwener Jungwinzer in the Mosel region.
We once spent a day in Lindau and Bregenz on our way from Finland to Italy. Absolutely beautiful!
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Doesn’t have to be formal organizations, or even people who are in contact. Artists/chefs/winemakers are always products of their time and it’s up to ‘critics’ (including those of us on here who don’t get paid to write) to make sense of the currents.
Broadly put, I would assume the trends are similar across countries, with the rise of post WWII industrial methods, then a response in the 70s and 80s to more ‘artisanal’ methods, and then in the 00s a major development in ‘natural’ wines.
But the dedicated critic could draw more specific fine-grained waves within that!
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Thanks again! I don’t think the two examples I mentioned were initially formal organizations, but they made some waves. One is based in Traben-Trarbach and the surrounding area, and the other was a group of young winegrowers in Leiwen. (By the way, the official name is Der Klitzekleine Ring, though it can be shortened to Klitzekleiner Ring. I edited this in my previous post.) Der Klitzekleine Ring includes Vollenweider, Weiser-Künstler, Martin Müllen, and Melsheimer, among other growers.
This is a bit of thread drift. The topic is the wines of Aufricht in Meersburg on Lake Constance.
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From my modest opportunity to try the Weingut wines, I liked the Kalkbrunnen Chardonnay enough to buy some to take back to NZ, and preferred the simpler Pinot Noir to the single vineyard ones (as an expression of Pinot Noir).
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Yeah it’s almost ironic no one talks about the Weingut wine as if they don’t exist. Maybe they employ a completely different set of winemaking choices though. Like Lamy-Caillat and Lamy-Pillot.
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“You can actually buy them” = “they do not exist”
I got the impression the Weingut wines were locally very well regarded (not necessarily by the geeks)
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