Germany 2024 Vintage (updated with the Vom Boden Report)

WINE TALK
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Absolutely not, should be pushed to older drinkers

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Yeah, because 50 cases of Riesling will really turn consumer sentiment.

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103

Why not both?

Either way, the producer shouldnā€™t have to obscure the fact they made an excellent Kabi with only 6.7% alcohol. Just the opposite.

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Humor and German regulations, two areas you need help with. Joking about the first

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No humor in Germany! :rofl:

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Well, it was my first thought also. :v:

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I have gravitated toward locking in what I want early and giving up later allocations / offers even if I lose those relationships. Iā€™ve also narrowed how many cuvĆ©es other than Gisela I buy, which means Iā€™m not looking or trying to balance early orders that include Gisela like I used to.

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108

But donā€™t overlook the 2024 Kugel Peter.

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109

Gisela is a consistently great wine, but for example, only once in the last decade has it got a higher score from MFW than any of the other cuvees.

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The trick is 7 to 8 percent alcohol but with relatively low levels of residual sugar.

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Yeah I went with Gisela and Meyer Nepal this year for my early allocation. I havenā€™t seen any Gisela offered since.

I used to buy 6 or 8 cases every year, but realized I donā€™t need that much Riesling when Iā€™m lucky to open one a month.

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112

But that isnā€™t really relevant to personal preferences developed over that periodā€“especially if you expect Gisela, based on history and experience, will be one of your favorite two every vintage.

Some observations in direct response though given I needed to scale back from buying every sweet and Feinherb Falkenstein wine and I canā€™t taste comprehensively before release by a number of the US distributors (including in the New York area); maybe other have similar observations:

  • I know I will love Gisela no matter what they write. (ā€œTheyā€, but I think itā€™s David, or usually David.)
  • Similar love for Mia although itā€™s a newer wine so less data.
  • Similar love for Forster although some vintages end up magical and others merely very very good.
  • I know I will like Kugel Peter a lot but almost never as much as the previous three.
  • I know I wonā€™t be able to tell which of the three Feinherbs among Meyer Nepal, Palm, and Onkel Peter I will like best from the MFW notes. Itā€™s often not what MFW likes best.
  • I know I canā€™t tell which, if any, of the trocken I will like based on MFW notes.
  • I like to get a bottle or two of the Rose no matter what they write. It shows best (and much better) after about a year in the cellar so you canā€™t trust early notes anyway, by MFW or other tasters.
  • I canā€™t and donā€™t drink scores.
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113

This.

I do find it funny that MFW scores get the degree of ā€œloveā€ from some here given the general derision towards most other reviewers. David & Jean are really good people, but itā€™s still turning someoneā€™s opinion into a number.

For me the most value in MFW is how they describe the sweetness levels in each wine. Itā€™s really helpful in pinpointing what to buy for me personally, but even more so bottles for my wife who prefers full fruity Spatlese and Auslese when she drinks Riesling.

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Ok sure. Just an observation about some of the ā€˜hypeā€™ for that cuvĆ©e that comes mostly from the USA, IMHO.

Iā€™m a happy buyer for my own cellar across the range, and I sell the wines!

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115

Or better yet, the exact amount.

If i have to go searching for ABV and/or RS numbers, I tend to cross that wine off the list. I have a basic threshold I use to determine if I will potentially like a wine (blind).

2024 sounds very promising due to both numbers being low! :pray:

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Iā€™m not that dogmatic.

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Iā€™m really sensitive to sugar, as I tend to keep it out of my diet as much as possible. Doesnā€™t take much to go from enjoyable to cloying. Not sure what other metric to use.

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Richter 2024 offer is out. fwiw.

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just looked up a few prices on falkenstein, some of them really took off (especially the ones at the top of the MFW ratings) $80 for Gisela! Canā€™t believe Iā€™d find a day where I felt rieslings were more than I wanted to pay! Curious if others are seeing inflated Falkensteins or if I need to hunt around moreā€¦

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I paid $35 for Gisela, so somebody is taking a huge cut at $80.

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