I have lots of demand for Boston.
That’s because up here we love that dirty water. Spatburgunder style.
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I think the term Red Riesling is spot on for Mosel Spatburgunder. It’s really has its own unique character unlike other regions of Germany much like the Riesling of the Mosel. I may be biased though as we lived right off the Mosel for so many years.
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Thanks for the notes on the Silberberg. We’ve visited their winery many times prior to the floodings, they’re really nice people to have a conversation with. Although not Spatburgunder we recently had a 2013 Cuvee Georg from them which was in such a perfect spot I with we had more than one bottle of it remaining in the cellar.
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Thank you. Have you ever had a Roter Riesling? Where did you live? I love the Mosel so much. Particularly Traben-Trarbach.
I have not had any, I’ve only heard about it and read about it. We lived in Badem, about a 15-20 minute drive down the Autobahn to the Mosel right past Markus Molitor and coming out near the Kloster Machern.
Oh to live that close to the Mosel! Have you been to the wine store in the Bungert store! They have to have the most number of Mosel Pinot Noir anywhere in the world. I carried two cased back for Mosel Pinot tasting in Los Angeles.
Oh my gosh, so they used to have a handful of really good Mosel wines. That’s where I got my Dr Herman/Steinmetz collaboration Spatburgunder bottles. When we were back there in early December I nearly fell over when I saw what they did with their wine selection. My wife had to pull me out of there twice.
I went in on New Years Eve and the bar area was packed 2-3 deep. I have a very funny story. The very nice woman working in the wine area was swamped and despite me buying 5-6 cases of wine over the last 12 months she just could not help me find suitable shipping boxes. I had one of my own but needed one more. I managed to get a box but it did not have inner sleeves. I saw some wine on the floor in another area with plastic cases I took the wine out and refilled it with my wine and it worked perfectly! I hope I am not on camera!
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Pfeffingen was probably the first to offer Roter Riesling commercially. Around 2018, I should have one bottle somewhere. After trying it I was never tempted to seek those out. As so often with those forgotten/rediscovered varietals, they tend not to live up to expectations.
I have had a recent vintages of the Pfeffingen a few times and thought it was really good. Definitely not a QPR.
But the Standells were from Seattle???
So dirty water is actually coffee? I don’t think so.
I just wikied the Standells, and they were actually from L.A, not Seattle. Dirty Water was written by their producer of that period. Incidentally Lowell George briefly appeared in a later lineup of the band.
I have not drank many Spatburgunders from the Pfalz but what I have drank have all been really well made. This one does not disappoint. I had a light aroma of cherries which once tasted presented themselves as red cherries about a week prior to ripeness where they have a slight tartness and then a layer of spice came out which I typically get from the Mosel not the Pfalz. Near the end of the bottle this spice went away and you started getting riper cherries but just enough acidity still present to make the wine enjoyable. Not a bad wine and it should age quite gracefully.
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That sounds fantastic. If you get a chance try to the Lukas Hammelmann Pinots from the Pfalz.
Thanks for the great note!
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Shhhh don’t ruin the Hammellman secret 
I think Dan is in the EU so in theory it will not be reducing the U.S. supply 
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Unfortunately not any more, we moved back in 2018 after living there for over 16 years with a 3 year break in the middle. We were lucky enough to bring back a few hundred bottles and I’ve found places here that fulfill our itch.
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Some more notes from the Moselburgunderstudy at Die Mosel:
2022 Immich-Batterieberg Monteneube l - Another fantastic showing for this wine. I really wish it would come into the U.S, Gernot has a fantastic way with Pinot Noir. Light, fantastic fruit, hint a mushroom savoriness super easy to drink at the moment.
From Christoph Raffelt fantastic Trink Article entitled: Modern Mosel Riesling Dressed in Red
When Kollmann took over management of the winery in 2009, he found 2,500 square meters of Pinot Noir in Monteneubel. It was unclear when the vines had been planted, or even which clone material had been used, but the loose cluster and small-berried fruit suggests French clones. Although Kollmann had previously consulted for wineries that cultivated Pinot Noir, he had never had direct contact with the variety in his own vineyards. However, as a Burgundy lover, he not only had many years of experience with the variety, but also a clear idea of what he wanted to do.
Such clarity of vision appears to be one of the key determining factors in producing a good Pinot. Kollmann felt that most German Spätburgunders to that point had been overly focused on achieving an international style. Little, he felt, distinguished German Pinots from bottles from Südtirol-Alto Adige, Oregon, or Switzerland’s Bündner Herrschaft; every wine seeking to be bigger (and thus theoretically better) than the last. The wines often featured heavy oak and chaptalization, and “a drive to be ‘impressive,’ to show that the producer knew how to make a Grand Red,” Kollmann says. This typically drained the wines of their playfulness and momentum. “In Burgundy I’d always been drawn to the smaller vintages where the acidic interplay was more pronounced, as well as to the villages that produced more elegant wines, for example, Marsannay,” he recalls. He asked himself what a Pinot Noir from Enkirch could take as its inspiration and concept.
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