German Spatburgunder Master Thread

I have not tasted the wines but I am pretty excited about the new Sven Enderle wine that Lyle dropped today. Enderle & Moll was the first Spatburgunder that blew my mind. I ordered a case and wondering if I should grab more at $33.

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Haha I knew somebody had to be talking about that offer if there was a new post today!

Sven making his own wine now, any details and info about the project?

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Very little details on the wine in the offer. It is a “village” level so it could be a blend. I know Sven has been in the Mosel. I will see what I can find out.

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Thanks Robert, will try to get a couple of bottles if I can find any here. Based on his instagram it looks like he has been traveling quite a bit, my guess would be that he purchased the grapes or has the right to some of the vines from E&M. Regardless, very interesting.

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I’m not Robert, but I have come out of wine buying retirement to purchase 4 bottles. I want to support Sven (in addition to the usual FOMO yada yada…).
Sven has been posting from Andel (Bernkastel-Kues) lately, but I seem to recall an IG disappearing story that implied he was working with grapes in the vicinity of Bühl, Baden. Find out what you can @Robert_Dentice !

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They are available here in Copenhagen. So i will grab one at some point.

And while I certainly enjoy my Wasenhaus, and some vintages from E&M, then I think my taste is pretty diverse! Oak is an issue for me some times, but more so in whites than reds.

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Sorry Lasse, wasn’t meant to imply that you don’t taste wide, I know you do! Was more to share about the difference and that others who might or might not like one or the other direction, and I know your heart is close to Wasenhaus :slight_smile:

Ps. 1 Becker wine powered on the second night as well. Quality juice and happy to have a few more bottles but for me the 2014 Liaison for example (at a similar price ~eur22) has shown a somewhat more depth and complexity.

Ps. 2 Drank a 2018 Lafarge PN Rouge along side the Becker, probably not fair to compare but the latter is empty while the former has about 30cl left still.

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Last night, I popped my first Dautel Spatburgunder- though mine said Pinot Noir. Ha. It was good, a decent value as an entry bottling, had more earth than fruit and was generally old-school leaning. That being said, it was smacked with a good bit of wood that needs to integrate or mellow a bit for my palate. Maybe in time…

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So a little more than a year ago i tasted the 2017 Vulkan because I had heard rumours about it suddenly having developed very quickly.
And it certainly had. It was still a good wine, but had lost most of its primary fruit in a span of a year.

So out of pure curiosity I had to try the 2018 now to see if it had developed in the same way…

It hasn’t.

It was pretty closed down initially and had to breath in the bottle to four hours before really starting to show enough to judge it. But right now I sit with a glass that still has a lot of darker primary cherry notes left. It has some earthy developed notes and a bit of dried fruit, but it is very much in the background currently. It is really delicious!

I don’t think it will go another five+ years for my taste. But I am a bit more calm about the pace I need to drink these at. I have three 2018 Vulkan left. Will probably taste them in six months intervals.

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Is this specific to Vulkan or Wasenhaus overall?

Not sure yet. Some of the top wines certainly have more concentration and might have a very long life. So this is mostly for the Spätburgunder, Vulkan and Am Kreuz.

I do have a pretty decent amount of the top wines from 2018. So I will let you know in a year or two :smiley:

Looks like there is a bottle of the Mohlin up this week. If the regular spat went for $245, wonder what this will go for…

Had Wasenhaus '18 Kanzel at a restaurant last week. Really bright and tart but with great back beats.

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It has been awhile since I have had a Meyer-Nakel. I associate them with the old guard of heavy handed winemaking, extraction and oak. I was blinded on a 2018 Meyer-Nakel, Blue Slate and I did not like it. I said too much oak, too much winemaking, tasted simultaneously ripe and green. I was with a well known Burgundian winemaker and he did not like it either. He did however like the 2012 Cameron Clos Electrique and 2021 Wasenhaus basic.

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Haha sorry for the spam. But the nose on this one is just so damn captivating! What a wine.

I just brought home a few 2018’s from Enderle & Moll and Julia Bertram. So I promise my next note will not be on Wasenhaus :grin:

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2016 Josef Walter Hundsrück Spatburgunder “J”. My second of two bottles and I probably won’t buy more. Don’t quote the get the hype here for $60.

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Opened another bottle of this some time ago and it was considerably better than the previous bottle. lively and full on from the start.

Strawberries, ripe raspberries, cherries, with hints of herbs, minerality and just very delicious. Refreshing ripe acidity and while silky tannins they had a bit of a bit still. A long sapidic finish that trigger the auto refill reflex.

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I had the '15 a few years ago and it was a very tense and unresolved wine. I should revisit now.

And on to something new (for me). I have had this wine hidden deep in the cellar, and with the question about how the Falkenstein wines age I had to visit on a coup of the oldest vintages I have.

This 2015 Hofgut Falkenstein Niedermenniger Herrenberg Red Trocken is my one and only PN I saw and having seen Lars remark about the wine not going through MF was very valuable to understand the wine.

The wine was extremely muted the first day - I mean like getting close to nothing except hint of spices.

It took till the third day (PnP) for more fruit to come through - mainly darker cherries. minerality, (powder) licorice. The acidic feel was quite harsh the first day, evolving to more sapidic and “juicy”/less harsh acidity. Despite being quite lean, over the days it gains weight. Dark berries on the finish as well as strawberries.

Don’t think I ever had a red that didn’t go through MF and have to say it was very interesting to explore though I would have loved to try a MF version as well to taste the difference.

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