Enjoying some wine much more, a lot of wine much less...what to do?

You dumping a lot of Bedrock on WineBid, is symptomatic of the issue here, so many people get caught up buying all the new cool shiny objects, amassing a ton of it, and then, realizing it may not be their thing. Hard not to fall prey to that on this site. We all do it to some degree or another. I see and actually buy a lot of Bedrock off WineBid as a result. It’s great stuff, and I clearly did not buy enough of it way back when! And to your credit, you have always been super generous on how you dispose of your overflow wine at very fair and below market prices, generally speaking. I got cautious after I bought a lot of modern St Ems back in the day when they were all the rage on eBob, along with 2007 CDP. I’ve cleared all of that out, and good riddance!

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My personal experience:

We just sold 1/3 of our cellar at auction because we phased out of many producers. I kept 10-15% of the phased out wines as a safety net for when the odd mood strikes for a California cab or we have company that enjoys it. This gives us flexibility while also reducing the fat and freeing up space. I can almost guarantee that I would have never drank all the back vintage Joseph Phelps that got sent to auction.

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None, lol.

Do what a few have said already: thin out your cellar, keep a small few of your favorites from the wines you don’t reach for now (because if will be fun to open them now and again), then sell off what you don’t want. Once you start, it’s quite liberating, and becomes easier and easier to let go of things.

I’m constantly churning my cellar. Go through everything at least once a year, thin out stuff I’m less likely to drink, or I have multiples off, or has gone up so much in value I can’t justify drinking it. I pretty much fund my continued buying from sales out of my cellar.

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While I still will drink any sort of wine that fits my preferences for style, I found that my tastes for regular consumption have narrowed over time. At some point I had to accept that I wasn’t reaching for that kind of wine very often and just stop buying it. You have to just think about whether that sort of wine offers what makes you enjoy wine to you any longer. If it still can, then you are probably just phasing. If not, sell it or just bring it to parties.

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Yeah I mean I still have a lot of bedrock; I’ll probably
send a bit more to auction but I didn’t like it enough to pay to
ship it across the US. The only wines in that cohort that I really wish I’d shipped was a bunch of Balthazar chaillots (11, 14 and 15) but I only had 24 slots to bring stuff back and the stuff I brought back I liked more.

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those who have cycled through wines, given this would be a larger amount (so I wouldn’t use Commerce Corner) I’m guessing WineBid is the best, as most are ‘everyday’ bottles - assuming Spectrum wouldn’t have much interest (it is local to me)

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I use winebid, partly because they take pretty much everything, and it’s local to me so I just drive my consignment up there. Honestly, I think what you might net is similar enough across the various options that you shouldn’t stress over it too much, just do what’s easiest.

Winebid was very easy to deal with.

I would love to do Winebid, but getting stuff to them from where I am seems like a major hassle.

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They’ll probably pickup wherever you’re at.

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You aren’t that far from NY. They won’t pick it up?

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tastes change and you need to change with them. Life is too short to drink wine you don’t want and that others would want—so transform that cellar. Trade, sell, gift—then buy.

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Gone through many iterations over the years.

WHAT’S OUT:

Started with Amarone. Now I can’t drink them.

Moved to natural wines. Now they rarely excite me unless I know they’re nicely made and not funksters. And shallowly, I can’t stand whimsical/artsy/colorful natural wine labels anymore. Really puts me off for some reason. To me it says “I’m only here to catch the current trend, not here for the long haul” and that rubs me the wrong way. Design matters.

Had a huge New World Pinot Noir phase. Now I’m less enthused. Mainly because quite a few of them aren’t actually great QPR (lots of bad PN out there) and also because I can see the typicity between them too closely - even the great ones rarely surprise.

Can’t get excited about most skin contact whites anymore.

WHAT’S IN:

Coming back strong to Cabernet. It was nowhere in my cellar for years, now I get really excited about the newer leaner Cabs coming. I think Ceritas set it off and been following Beta/Jasud closely. Enfield, Di Constanzo are amazing.

Still on a strong Syrah kick.
Still on Riesling kick.
Still on a Zin kick.

I’m sure 10 years from now everything will have reversed again.

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I focussed the cellar on quality northern rhones (80%) and burgundy (10%) thinking that other stuff I can buy in restaurants or fresh in shops. I am happy with that choice. The caveat is that good rhones need 20+ years to fully deliver to my taste. Since I settled on the rhones early on I never had any problem of scale with other wines I have lost the appeal for. Burgundies that fail to deliver pleasure are either used for sauce or remain in hope for a miracle with time.

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This is what I did. I sold, traded, and gave my best friend a few cases. Transitioned my cellar from reds from all over to all Champagne and haven’t regretted it for a second.

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As I have gotten more mature, my taste has narrowed. I am far less tolerant of alcohol, overripeness, and a gloopy texture, and instead value complexity and brightness. I also keep selling off my very high priced bottles of Burgundy, as I only drink $1000 plus bottles a couple of times and cannot bring myself to open one on a casual weekend night. Instead, I turn to producers such as Glantenay, Rossignol Trapet, and Jouan, and if I want to treat myself to an expensive Burgundy, I will open a Trapet Chambertin, happy that it has stayed below the $1000 threshold. And of course I love traditional wines, and old fashioned right bank estates which now take up a disproportionate part of my cellar.

So my advice to you young Todd is to buy what you like now. Your taste is unlikely to regress to what you now shudder at the thought of drinking. Oh, and buy more Magdelaine :blush:

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I have found that part of tastes shifting is also our palates being “trained” in a way - the more we drink of certain wines, the more apt we are to find wines like that preferable. So while it’s possible you will some day go back to the wines you liked before, I think it’s unlikely unless you just start drinking them again and more often. If you’re just not reaching for those wines, why pay to store them? You can use the funds to buy wines you want to drink (or spend the money on something else). If my (admittedly small) amount of modernist Barolo I bought when I was first becoming more serious about wine were to disappear tomorrow, I wouldn’t be very upset.

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I’ve sold things through Spectrum and it seems to work fine, including for everyday bottles.

Very easy, just drop off the boxes at their place in Santa Ana. I’ve usually just left 12-24 bottles for them, mixture of more and less valuable bottles. Checks eventually arrive in the mail.

I’ve never sold through Winebid or anyone else, so I can’t compare it in terms of being better or worse, netting more or less money, or anything else.

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In 25+ years of hanging around wine boards, I’ve heard of many who start with X as their favorite and never change, and many who start with New World cabernet and pinot as their favorite and migrate to one or more European regions over time. Also many who started with Bdx as their favorite and then branched out. What is missing from this is people who start or migrate to things like Burgundy or Northern Rhône and then migrate to New World cabernet or pinot. Obviously, it happens but it seems to be far more rare.

So if you sold/traded most of your domestic wines for NRs and Burgs and then FF ten or fifteen years I think it’s far more likely you’ll be glad you did so than you’ll wish you hadn’t. As usual, all predictions guaranteed wrong or your money back.

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Buy a bunch of Hardy’s WinecoYeah! Wines, put on some Ravi Shankar and enjoy life!

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