Duckhorn is the embodiment of evil.

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One person’s smoke taint is another marketer’s Terrior.

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First of all, John H.:

Berry, thank you for the nomination! I agree!

Also, to those who feel that the fact that the winery rep was pouring samples absolved the winery of any responsibility, what of the vast majority of that wine which is sold off the shelf or on the web site with no disclaimer or opportunity to try the wine before buying? Sorry, but smoke taint is not terroir. If it was, wineries would not have spend tons of money trying to strip all the terroir out of their 08 wines, nor would they junk the wines off on the bulk market because they had too much terroir. All people who actually worked on these wines know that they are flawed, plain and simple. I have great respect for producers like Navarro who openly advertised the fact, rather than selling the wine like nothing out of the ordinary occurred.

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Oh great. I suppose next you’re going to tell me that there’s no such thing as a Jackelope either.

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So naive. SO very naive


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Not blood, just ethical business practices.

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DuckHorn Cabernet Sauvignon Rocks

I also had a great experience at the winery!

a little Smoke, No problem Bring it! also throw in some minerality and love it.

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Not sure. My very first case when I went into private practice was for a woman who had been hit head on by a driver who claimed he swerved into her lane to avoid “A deer or a rabbit”.

Eagerly anticipating cross-examination, I made it a point to collect all the jackalope paraphanelia I could- "Was THIS the animal you saw sir? Or was it “THIS one”?

Unfortunately for me (but good for the client which is more important) they quickly settled for policy limits, but I still think there may be such a creature based on the wide amount of stuff I found.

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“what are all these upper-middle class white males doing hanging out in our vineyard with a wine glass!?” [stirthepothal.gif]

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Cab isn’t the issue…it’s the Anderson Valley pinot from Goldeneye…AV go nailed with fires, and smoke and soot covered a bunch of vineyards. Napa Cab should be fine, with no real heavy smoke notes.

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Im still wishing I find a good pinot someday any vinyard. Havent yet! So many people like Pinots and everytime I try a new pinot, it re-enforces my love for Cabernet!

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What’s the difference between Duckhorn and all the Burgundy producers selling through their 2004 green meanie vintage?? I guess you sell your wine if you think you can salvage…

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This thread is awesome!

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Or a Burgundy producer selling any white wine!

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The 2004 greenie meanies didnt show up until the wines were in bottle for a while. The problem was obvious until the wines were already imported.

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Exactly what I was thinking. T least you had the opportunity to taste. But if you hadn’t, would you really have considered purchasing it? -mJ

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HERETIC !!!

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If it were just wine , we would nt bee here, but it is ALL ABOUT THE WINES!!! Is’nt It!

THANK God for Wine!

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[rofl.gif]

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love the smell of earth in a wine! Why is that good?
But I do!

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More apples to apples, what’s the difference between Duckhorn and the Anderson Valley producers who chose to bulk out/declassify their '08 wines? That seems to be the point the OP is trying to get across.