Thanks for the heads up…I’ll check it out.
We had the 08 last night with bacon cheeseburgers, loved the wine. Opened slowly over 2 hours and was best with food. Definitely new world wine and not Caldeaux, still terrific.
Glenn- that 08 is very good and most of their wines do reward a few hours of air. I had to search Caldeaux and then saw your thread on the 93 Forman and got the play on words. They are modern cali wines but not hyper ripe by any standards and very balanced. A bit on the feminine side I’d say.
09 Forman now that is Caldeaux with ripe fruit. Great wine.
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Fred - I agree D-P is not hyper ripe in my experience, but plenty ripe by any standard. The wines are not Schrader by any means, but as you point out they are not Forman either.
Maybe I could go androgynous, there are not a lot of Cabernet Sauvignon wines I think of as feminine. The variety just doesn’t hit me like that.
Good one Glenn. Have you had the recent Forman vintages ? We had 9,11 and 12 last week during a visit and i had one of the 10’s about a month ago. Not over ripe by any means but packing a bit more oomph. Just outstanding wines. Not surprisingly the 11 is pretty approachable. The 10 is a rock star wine. I bought some more ( i think they have a little left) as part of a mixed 6 pack.
Last Forman Cab I enjoyed was the 06. Has 2011 D-P come around already as an offer?
Last Feb though they told us they have a little bit of 09,10 and 11 left they can sell. I’ve bought library vintages from them before and it’s standard release price. The 12 will come out this Feb. Have high hopes for it.
I hope I get a 2012 offer, I’ll be a buyer.
I’ve had the 07 twice now in the last few weeks including from Magnum last night. Drinking very well right now with a 1 hr decant. I will be drinking these before most of my other vintages.
I’m finding most of my 07’s are in their drinking window and I’m not sure the underlying structure is their for them to improve( general assessment) based on a few recent samples- pride, larkmead…
Fred, have you tried 2006 any time recently?
Alex- we had the 06 in Napa a few weeks ago on our trip and it is very good. It showed much better then a bottle last summer and was just excellent. I might prefer it now to the 07. No rush though so if you have some 07’s you might try those as I think the 06’s in general have more tannin and built to last.
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Thanks for resurrecting this Fred.
I think I’ll pop a 2009 tomorrow night. I’ll report.
Scott- what did you end up opening ?
Fred, I was intrigued and opened 07.
Decanted for a couple of hours and served with grilled lamb chops.
I found it a bit awkward, in between the fruit stage and the earthy stage. Even so, it was absolutely delicious. Mt wife tried to squeeze the last few drops from the bottle.
I’ll wait a few years before I pop another.
I popped and poured a 2007 Friday night, too. I agree it was a bit awkward. It was a bit overripe, but not unexpected given the vintage. We left half the bottle and finished it tonight. On night #3 it was much smoother and more comfortable in its skin.
We had an 07 back in Oct 13 and was able to compare to 08-11 with the visit we had with Francoise during the trip. The 07 and 10 were tops and the 7 was in a great place. Last 2 bottles I’ve had it is accelerating at a quick pace. It was very good but was the ripest DP I’ve had.
I’m finding most of my other 07’s are losing tannin at a quick pace and will be drinking them in the next 2 years. Regular Larkmead and Pride were a big surprise compared to how they normally hold up.
We had the 2009 this week with friends and it was terrific from pnp. Needed about 20 minutes to open in the glass. Great wine and preferred it a bit compared to the last 07 we had.
For those Long Haul collectors: I’ve got a few bottles of the 08 (the first “cult wine” I ever bought) and now some 10 and 11. How long would you co sider holding the 08?
Noah- I’ve had all 3 in the last few months. Here were my notes
2011- Had this in Oct- solid, gave it a decant which helped. could use a year or 2 but not a long ager
2008- had this in June- needs 2 -3 hours of air to really emerge, delish and complex. no rush on these
2010- had this in July- this is my note from CT. I think the 10 is one of their top vintages and in general I believe 2010 cabs are ones to age and leave alone for a few years
Deep and dark color with a shy nose that slowly reveals black fruit along with some tobacco and mineral elements. It’s similar in the mouth initially and a bit closed. After 2 hours of slow ox’d it really opens up to show additional layers of flavor and supporting tannins that add a touch of richness and a firm mouthfeel. This is another top vintage for DP where it shows the wonderful balance they seem to hit each year but a touch more in verve and the overall package. Very good today and expect it to be excellent in another 2 years or so. Drink now with several hours of air or hold
Open the 08 or 11 now and give them some air or short decant and leave the 10’s alone for a year or 2. In general these always seem to reward a few hours air slow ox. The 09 this week was probably the best from pnp since the 04. Have you had a chance to try any of the Soliste you ordered ?
Bamp:
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2006 Drinkward Peschon Cabernet Sauvignon Entre Deux Mères - USA, California, Napa Valley (9/4/2015)
Popped and poured, deep garnet. Lovely, quietly effusive nose of blackberries, black cherry, black currant, mint, menthol, herbs & earthy autumnal foliage. Medium-plus body. Flavors mirror the nose to show a nice core of dark fruits interspersed with herbaceous minty notes and subtle earth, the oak basically absorbed at this stage. A touch of heat as well and the polished tannins are mostly integrated on the moderate-plus close. Lovely Cabernet, drinking perfectly right now and should continue to over the next 5+ years.
For my palate, this is drinking perfectly right now and is right in the zone between fruit forward and tertiary development, which is generally how I prefer Napa Cabs to drink. Purchased on release and aged in my passive cellar.