DRC GE and RSV 2012

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#1

Guys,

In a fantastic stroke of luck, I was allocated a GE and RSV in the annual DRC drawings.

Which one, in your opinion, is ‘better’

Thanks!

#2

While I don’t expect overwhelming reply- I didn’t realize there is a “drawing”. Would someone be willing to share details of the drawing/lottery in a PM? In advance- many thanks.

#3

RSV has been on a tear and will likely drink well younger than the backward GE. Haven’t tasted either or read reviews.

#4

I opened the '12 GE out of mag at our wine bar a few months ago, and it was really amazing. Haven’t tasted the RSV, but without factoring price I’d choose RSV.

#5

GE is $600 CAD

RSV is $1000 CAD

#6

I’ll take the GE if you don’t want it! If I had my choice, though, I still think the RSV would be the better bottle–in a decade or more.

#7

I tried the RSV last February at the Domaine. It is a striking wine: large-scaled (by the standards of DRC RSV), beautifully balanced, and with immense incipient complexity. It is also youthfully reductive and endowed with a very serious, if refined, structural chassis; so opening magnums—or bottles—right now is really a travesty.

But the Grands Echezeaux is also a superb wine.

I don’t get the sense that either cru was favoured or disadvantaged in 2012, so it will really depend on your taste. Which do you like more? I don’t think there is a ‘right answer’: although RSV is increasingly fashionable right now, for whatever reason, GE is clearly one of the top grand crus in the Cote de Nuits, esteemed as such for a long time (perhaps more so back in the day when people were more patient). I would personally be very tempted by the GE, since I have time on my side and like brooding wines. On the other hand, that RSV is just extraordinary!

What is clear is that you cannot go wrong.

#8

GE was a standout when tasting through the drc 12’s early last year and bottles in each of the decades going back to the 70’s were consistent and truly beautiful.

#9

LCBO…in Ontario, Canada ?

Release for vintage 2012 is now over.

#10

RSV unless you’ll never drink a bottle that expensive, but would drink one at $600.
fred

#11

Haven’t had any 2012 DRC’s yet, but I would imagine the vintage might really suit their RSV.

That being said, I am a big fan of their GE, and long term I would think it might be the better wine.

Buy them both…

#12

Likely the RSV. Even when the vineyard material was “substandard” by DRC’s view, the wine was still lovely.

I haven’t had the 12s. but I know if someone said, “hey, I’m opening a DRC,” I would be more excited for a Romanee-St. Vivant.

#13

I’m located in southern Ontario and will gladly buy whatever one you don’t want. PM me.

#14

*the vineyard material was “substandard” by DRC’s view



I understand DRC declassied around 25% of their juice from RSV because in their view it was substandard but not pricewise …NOW.[swearing.gif].

Some 20 years ago DRC released their RSV at around 50-55% of LT and now…around 85-90%. RST used to be cheaper than their Rich and now slightly higher in Canada.

For example : LT 1995 $ 695; DRC Rich 1995 $ 388; and DRC RSV 1995 $323.

#15

Long long ago when I could afford to buy this stuff the RSV and Grands Echezeaux were priced the same, with much more of the RSV in a mixed case vs GE. I remember a trusted merchant telling me with 1985s that the quality of RSV had been improving quite a bit and it was the relative bargain in the mix. Interesting to me how pricing has caught up with Richebourg.

#16

DRC owns 3.52 ha in GE and 5.29 ha in RSV.

#17

I reckon the GE is DRC’s best value offering. With age it looks a bit like La Tache.

#18

This.

There is a quality gap between Echezeaux and GE but not much quality difference between GE and RSV. I often prefer GE anyway irregardless of price, I must be minority.

#19

Jeremy- are you talking based on release prices or after market pricing. I think the value proposition changes.Once the wine is in the after market, the value moves toward Richebourg/RSV/La Tache imho