Dr. Jones' Bday at the worst QPR chinese restaurant in LA(Roulot/Dujac/Rousseau/Boillot/Salon/Krug)

A few of us got together for a belated (one week belated) birthday gathering for Bryan. Also bittersweet as he moves to New York at the end of next week.

The location of the gathering was the famous Mr. Chow restaurant in Beverly Hills. A frequent haunt of celebrities and the wealthy who like to think they are eating “authentic” Chinese food. As I pulled up to the valet, a lambo was right in front of me. I was excited as I hoped to see a celebrity come out of it… unfortunately it was just another fake tanned older couple with significant silicone additions (on the female). I did wave to the TMZ bus as it stopped in front of the restaurant. Have to give the adoring public a hello.

I’ve never actually been inside this restaurant before. Cause… I’m Chinese and… I didn’t want to dishonor my family name by eating here. I ragged on Goldman most of the night as the restaurant is on the rotation for his family dinners, but I’ll cut him some slack. People from Bel Air rarely venture into East LA for anything ;D. I did see another Asian there, but she was youthful arm candy for an older gentleman. So at least someone paid for her meal.

Suffice to say, my fears were realized. The food was not good. Came out to $140 a person after $30/btl corkage. They have a “Squab with lettuce cup” on the menu that says “diced chicken” right below it. Change the name to Chicken with lettuce cup? Pretty sure it was just baby food

If you want to eat “expensive” chinese food, I highly recommend WP24 in the Ritz in DTLA. You’re paying $100+ dollars but the service is fantastic and the food is filled with high quality ingredients with a high end twist. Not just regular chinese food I find at a regular chinese restaurant but priced 4x more -_-

On the plus side, the company was great and the wine was awesome! But next time we eat Chinese food Goldman, we’re coming to my hood and it’ll be $90 cheaper a person :wink:.

Every wine (other than the Roulot) was just singing. Highly recommend drinking any of the wines now.

Until next time!




  • 1988 Krug Champagne Vintage Brut - France, Champagne (6/22/2014)
    boom shakalaka this bottle was on fire. Probably the most balanced version I’ve had of this wine. The nose was a bit oxidized and nutty but the palate was just filled with such complexity and power. While the 96 salon next to it was about being bright this krug was about brooding power. Just all this mushroom, dark ripe fruit, brioche, the yeasty flavors just covers your palate. Punch in the mouth awesome going on right here
  • 1996 Salon Champagne Brut Blanc de Blancs - France, Champagne, Le Mesnil Sur Oger, Champagne (6/22/2014)
    what more needs to be said about this wine? Fantastic. Another great youthful bottle. In the beginning it has mouth coating acidity and citrus but it toned down with some time in bottle. Just clear cut precise citrus fruit, saline that expands and coats your mouth with bright flavors. My favorite 96 from the big houses hands down
  • 2000 Domaine Dujac Echezeaux - France, Burgundy, Côte de Nuits, Echezeaux Grand Cru (6/22/2014)
    I think Dujac absolutely knocked it out of the park in 2000. I’m not a huge fan of their charmes/combettes in general but they killed it in 2000. Then you talk about the wines I do love like the Echezeaux and it’s just banging sexy hot. The wine is in a great place right now with a perfumed intoxicating nose of spice, herbs, and dusty fruit. The palate is just this lush earthy mouthful that really tantalizes with all types of different flavors of meatiness, sweet red fruit, earth and all wrapped up in this brutish forward structure that frames everything really well.
  • 2002 Henri Boillot Bâtard-Montrachet - France, Burgundy, Côte de Beaune, Bâtard-Montrachet Grand Cru (6/22/2014)
    Last bottle I had was slightly oxidized, but this bottle was BANGING. It was youthful on the pop and pour but with about 30 minutes in the glass it just expands. Not in the same richness and concentration of the 04 batard from Boillot but it just had this incredible balance. Everything was in the right place. You could sense that it still needed a few years to really strut it’s stuff as it was just yearning to break free with that classic big boillot batard flavor. But right now, the acid was in a perfect spot, the precision of fruit was there and the mouthfeel was just silky smooth.

Delish. Boillot is definitely up there as one of my favorite batard (if not my favorite) producer

  • 2007 Domaine Armand Rousseau Père et Fils Gevrey-Chambertin 1er Cru Clos St. Jacques - France, Burgundy, Côte de Nuits, Gevrey-Chambertin 1er Cru (6/22/2014)
    I had this almost exactly a year ago and I think it’s closing up a little. It still has that wonderful soft texture on the palate and there was this delicious meatiness and spice and cooling acidity, but the oak was getting really pronounced with air. I’d hold off on opening any. It definitely has more flavor and complexity than a lot of 07’s in the same class, so I think it’s gonna be a fantastic wine… just needs time!
  • 2010 Jean-Marc Roulot Meursault 1er Cru Clos des Bouchères - France, Burgundy, Côte de Beaune, Meursault 1er Cru (6/22/2014)
    Really moldy and funky, very reductive on the nose. Stark contrast to the awesome clear precise bottle I had the weekend before. The wine started to shed the reduction at the end of the night, but it never had the opportunity to really blossom to that pure rich fruit that roulot is so well known for. Probably could have used a nice long decant.

Mr Chow is so horrifically bad that self-respecting Jews won’t eat there on Christmas. At least you washed the “food” down with decent wines.

glad wine was good! that dish looks like hormel conred beef hash from the can :slight_smile:

What…no Carillon Chevy?

Weird on the Boucheres? You’re sucking those down like water! [cheers.gif]

We opened '96 Salon this week too - to welcome home the wife + baby Kelly. KILLER. Just awesome.

As for that Roulot - aren’t those wines he inherited? I have read the history on those “r” wines a couple times and don’t seem to have it straight. I thought they were in barrel or something like that, so more like a negociant thing than a “real” Roulot?

Recently popped my Roulot Perrieres cherry with the 07. Damn, understand why that particular bottle is so hard to find!

Someone can correct me if I’m wrong, there is only ever going to be one bottling of the Jean Marc Negotiant (at least for now). It’s the Clos des Boucheres that he’s currently bottling. The vineyards from Domaine Rene Manuel went up for sale which include Clos Des Bouchers and some Poruzots. Lafon and Roulot split up the holdings to farm (purchased by investors) as the vineyards are leased to them.

The reason why it was a negotiant label was because the wines were already in barrel. He picked the best barrels from the clos des boucheres from the manuel cellar and finished elevage and bottled the wines.

Also damn you’ve never had Roulot perrieres before!? Yeah shit is the real deal.

Congrats on the new addition to the family!

God that food looks unappetizing. Bad Chinese in LA, say it ain’t so.

There’s one in London and in Tribeca, NYC as well:

that Alan Richman quote in the article may be the ultimate example of damning with faint praise…

Thanks for taking “one for the team.” I’ve never dined there for precisely the reasons you mentioned. Everyone I know who has been there says it’s way overpriced while under-delivering. I guess I’ll drive my nonexistent Lambo to someplace that has real Chinese food.

But at least the place was mentioned once in a Steely Dan song, so it does have that going for it…

Bruce

Thanks everyone to coming out for my bday/going away wine dinner!

Despite the fake Chinese dishes, disinterested service and poor timing, the food was authentic in its deliciousness. I don’t dispute that the real Chinese food in East LA is just as good (albeit different), at a quarter of the cost. I guess this is the equivalent of my going to one of LA’s fancy “Italian” restaurants, staring at the diminutive, $30 scoop of pasta in front of me, and wondering why I didn’t instead go to some mom and pop hole in the wall in North Jersey for a huge, $10 bowl of equally tasty, real Italian food. I have ragged on Mr. Chow in the past, and it is grossly overpriced, so happy to have Charlie pick a real Chinese place in East LA next time!

That said, the wines were on fire!

1996 Salon - Bright, taut, and precise. Lovely high toned white fruits and incredibly acidic at first, but rounded out with time. So much minerality. Incredible!

1988 Krug - Great foil to the Salon with its oxidative style, nut and bread notes, and so much power. You couldn’t ask for two more different yet equally fantastic Champagnes.

2000 Dujac Echezeaux - Effusive, prefumed nose of florals and spice. Really well integrated on the palate with silky red fruits and everything in balance.

2007 Rousseau Clos St. Jacques - Intense spice dominated the nose alongside some berry and oak. Fruit was in the background on the lightweight palate, with some oak, meat, and tense acidity.

2002 Henri Boillot Bâtard Montrachet - Started out a little unfocused, but with air this was singing! Precise, weighty, and dense - very characteristic of Bâtard. Lovely floral nose.

2010 Jean-Marc Roulot Meursault 1er Cru Clos des Bouchères - A moldy note on opening took a while to blow off. Never quite opened up fully but did show great underlying material.

Thanks to everyone for contributing some awesome bottles! Enjoyed some great company and certainly had some interesting conversations at our table! All the wanna-be socialites and old men on dates with girls 30 years their junior surrounding us were probably very amused by the loud table covered in tons of bottles and ostentatious stemware!

There is nothing different between the food at mr chow and a neighborhood chinese restaurant. Presentation is the same. The quality of ingredients are the same. Only thing is the price and lack of flavor at mr chow.

The difference between high end and low end Italian are night and day in quality. Presentation. Flavor. You don’t see spaghetti and meatballs at osteria mozza. But you see honey walnut shrimp, chicke lettuce cups at all the basic chinese places.

But I went for the wine and company and those were great!

Charlie, I will bring some old Burgundy if you pick the Chinese place in East LA.

Although equally as expensive- Hakkasan is legit.

What is a TMZ bus Fu?

First Ive heard about it too

I think the problem is the ownership.
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i want to go to there.

Sorry I couldn’t make it! Good luck in the NYC.

Bryan and Matt, next time at least go to Hakkasan. Same price, much better quality, and more authentic in deliciousness and authenticity. :wink:

We do it all the time mike! Pm your email and I’ll include you in!

This was the actual dish? wow… it looks gross… :frowning: