Could easily be argued/shown that in warmer years this crop load would actually be insufficient for producing the best quality wine.
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Iām sure they have. The OP was about whether there could be more bottles of Coche than the standards would bear. Even at 3 tons/acre you donāt get to 2,400 bottles (thatās 20% over the 40 hl/ha). So, are they managing appropriately (as would be more than expected) or is something fishy going on that they have nothing to do with? These comments arenāt addressing Cocheās obvious commitment to quality but to what might be happening.
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Sorry, Jim, Iāve lost track amidst all these replies. Yes, the real question should be whether some suspicious activities are happening that have nothing to do with them?
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If they produced more than the maximum yield (which I doubt they did in 2005 - not a super high yielding white vintage, and their vines are old with some of them pruned in cordon, so not exactly set up for high yields), they wouldnāt be able to sell it as CC anyway.
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Does a bottle number generally indicate that the bottle has been officially released for sale?
Galloni posted a 2015 CC bottle on IGā¦#6492!
Since the labels donāt have vintages, maybe they just print them in bulk.
Pretty hilarious if the number on the label indicates theā¦ the labelās number.
Actually it would make perfect sense as a way to make counterfeiting more difficult. If nobody actually knows which bottle numbers are legitimate in any vintage.
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It wouldnāt since even with the capacity available here no one has a clue 
The Domaine would though. But Iām guessing itās more about logistics than that.
Perhaps the numbers donāt start from zero for each cuvĆ©e, and are instead just bottles totaled up.
Nope. My bottles were purchased over the years from a US retail shop who purchased directly from Kermit Lynch. All except 2007 show a 5 digit bottle number.
2005: 01192
2007: 000331
2009: 00675
2010: 03020
2011: 01938
2012: 00271
If the OP thinks a 2400s bottle number is a problem then your 3000 range bottle is totally crazy!
There really has to be an easier explanation.
Iām 100% confident that I have a real bottle. Buzzās bottle from 2010 was 03583.
I suspect the OP has got his assumptions and calculations slightly off. If not then Coche and Kermit have some explaining to do. 
Math is hard! 
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After 2013, they expanded their vineyard holdings and increased production.
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2,500 bottles correspond to a yield of 56.25 hl/ha. Perhaps this vintage had a higher production, as Burgundyās yields werenāt as strictly controlled in the past.
Still, Iām quite surprised that it was officially released for sale.ā¦
Fans of the domaine will rejoice to learn that the domaine was able to acquire a .335 ha parcel of Corton-Charlemagne in the lieu-dit Le Charlemagne (in Aloxe); the parcel is in a fashion the sister parcel of the one that they already farm and so the total holding is now .67 ha. The acquired parcel was originally planted to pinot and the decision was made to harvest what little fruit there was as Pernand, Aloxe and Savigny were especially hard hit by hail in 2013. After the 2013 harvest the new parcel was immediately replanted to chardonnay and thus the Coche Corton-Charlemagne will become a bit less rare than it is now. In associated news, Coche further noted that they sold their parcel of Pommard to help finance the acquisition so that wine will no longer be made.
Youāre surprised that Coche released a 2005 Corton Charlemagne? Thatās a good one.