I will try to explain maybe I confused the situation. Sorry I have a sizable wine cellar. I also maintain two reasonably sized fridge. One has new world and the other fridge has old world. The wines in the fridges are not of the same quality as in the cellar but still nice wines. I have found over the years that with the varying tastes of people it’s not always practice to let someone into the cellar and grab a latour I had the habit of letting everyone into the cellar telling them grab a bottle and we will drink that bottle. So now I just let people pick anything out of the fridges. I tried keeping a just grab section in the cellar to steer people to but it seemed not to work well. It’s just my personal experience
All at home. None off site. I have been involved in litigation involving multiple different offsite storage faciities. If the walls could talk . . . No way would I trust them.
And I never know when a guest wants to try a wine that might not be ready and thus some of you might keep off site.
But then again, I live in the burbs with a basement. The cellar was built in the empty space in the basement. In a Manhattan apartment, that much space would cost more than my entire house.
Given the frequent power outages in SoCal, the offsite is safer, even considering issues that Jay raises.
I have quite a few of my most expensive bottlings at home but also many off site as well. I definitely favor having them home v offsite and boxed.
That’s what’s a generator is for.
To answer the OP, I keep plenty of expensive wine in the offsite, but for my most prized individual bottles, I do prefer to keep eyes on them at home where nobody but me has access. The offsite has employee access to store incoming shipments and you just never know what could go wrong either accidentally or on purpose and it could be years before I noticed an individual bottle missing.
Both.
And neither.
Both because I have two homes 750 miles apart. Hence, when in one, the rest of my wine is off site.
Neither because you can count on one hand the number of expensive bottles I own.
Sorry mike i read too fast i appoligize i did not properly read to the ten percent
I think we have all had different experiences which tend to lead us to store in different manners There may be no perfect solution
5000 is significant not sure i am there but i m in the 1000s
Sorry again
How long will your generator run? A week? If not, not good enough, at least here in socal when there is high correlation between power outages and high temperatures.
A year or more; they’re powered by natural gas.
I have two separate 30 kw generators and also battery backup that will last ~1-2 additional days, as well as solar, although our panels aren’t quite enough to power 100% of our energy usage.
The generators aren’t for the wine because temperature isn’t a serious issue even without active cooling, but help in that sense nonetheless.
A few responses have mentioned problems they have had with their off site storage. Curious what they were. I’ve never encountered any issues and have been with the same company for over 20 years and very happy with them
Good question could not a answer for sure especially for various locations and or number of outages
Its pretty warm most of the summer where i am located
I would guess more than a week is unusual where i live but also who knows only been her a couple of years
When i was in new jersey i had a few day problem. I had a contract for service and had them check the generac after two days it was fine I suggest having a service contract for sure if you are considering
Nice to have a generac these days My generac does the entire home
Definitely keep your generator serviced; I know people who have run them for months or longer (not in us)
Offsite. As i live in an apartment with two kids, I simply don’t have space for a lot of wine at home.
I do have a single wine fridge and some boxes with wine in a small basement room. Around 150 bottles at home in total. But as I cannot get insurance for my wine in that room, I basically fill it with everyday drinkers or wines I know I will drinking within 2-3 months.
My offsite facility is pretty close by, so it is not a big problem picking up wine when I need to though.
Offsite. I’m still in my first home, and I chose to live in Seattle, so I have no space for s cellar. I like the convenience of shipping to offsite storage, and I have a lot of a lot of trust in the owners. I’m also a 7 minute drive from the facility, so it doesn’t take much planning for me to swing by and snag a few bottles.
We are in the midst of a remodel though, and I’m looking forward to upgrading to a larger wine fridge for home storage.
Also, I did the math and the cost of building an at home cellar is roughly 20 - 30x my annual cost of wine storage. I’ll do it some day, but no rush on my end.
I store them at home and roughly estimate their value on my home insurance.
Tanks or your home gas supply?
On-site wells in Western PA
Gas line. No reason for buried propane here.
But mostly for Cabernet Frack, amirite?