Do you still use your Coravin?

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I don’t use it too often but I find it extremely helpful. We have two homes and often I don’t plan to be home for several days here in the city. Before I would always worry about opening a bottle that I could not finish in 2 days. Now thanks to Coravin I can have 1 or 2 glasses without concern of coming home to an oxidized wine.

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the new version weighs 30% less and the rubber and whole device seems more durable… we find it much easier to use … cost $199.00 vrs $300.00

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CORAVIN™MODEL ONE WINE SYSTEM
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Introducing the Coravin Model One Wine System. You love a glass of wine in the evening, and now you don’t need to worry about drinking the entire bottle or limiting yourself to one kind of wine - whether you’re craving red or white (or both) Coravin gives you complete freedom to enjoy wine on your own terms. Utilizing proven Coravin technology and featuring a friendly and functional design, the Coravin Model One Wine System lets you pour wine effortlessly without removing the cork, so you can enjoy the rest of the bottle another day.

Coravin Wine Needle – specially designed to be gentle on your corks and pour wine both quickly and smoothly.
Soft Touch Grips – the system’s easy-to-squeeze clamp that fits around the bottle neck, ensuring a secure hold and effortless pour.
Load Cell Technology – the capsule-loading chamber creates the perfect amount of force for an airtight seal, ensuring no gas escapes.
Premium Coravin Capsules – contain more than 99.99% pure argon gas to protect the remaining wine from oxidation.

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this is a pic on instagram … I used it on a great wine to sample with my Daughter and her cousins …

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that blue you see is a harden rubber to grip the wine bottle and the ergonomics seem more balanced,refined,less cumbersome…

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How do people use their Coravin with whites/chilled bottles? I just got one, and haven’t used it on any whites yet. I’ve read the cork doesn’t self-seal as easily when cold. Also, do you chill the bottle every time you have a glass, or extract at cellar temp/room temp and chill just that glass? Not sure if taking the whole bottle in and out of the fridge for each glass causes problems.

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I chill the bottles sometime, as in the picture above … the corks do leak, even warm ones, you place your finger over the leak and press the end and she will seal up again … also depends if you dosed it with extra gas often done when you depress the applicator button and quick release not giving the gas inside the bottle to depressurize, as you can build gas up in bottle in excess… just don’t do this …

I personally like my whites at cellar temp so chilling is usually for guests … it’s done and yes the corks will leak some… really not a problem for me …


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I use and love mine. I have found that it not only saves me money (even on less expensive bottles), but also encourages me to enjoy my wine, when I would otherwise not want to open a bottle and waste half. im not a fan of wine that’s been sitting a day or 2… It always tastes “off” to me. I’ve had mine since they released them. I’ve only found on a couple of occasions the wine being noticeably oxidized, and this was always after accessing the bottle twice prior to the pour.

Most bottles will leak a small drop of wine if laid on side after use. I suspect this is from pressure of argon in the bottle being higher than atmosphere. I’ve made it a habit to pour wine into glass almost until nothing comes out before stopping use, and always take a small crumbled up piece of napkin or paper towel and tape to the cork to catch drops of wine and to see how much leaks.

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I’ve had quite a few spoiled bottles from the CORAVIN. After a lot of experiments I have concluded that this is down to the age of the cork. In time, the substance looses its natural elasticity; I initially believed that this meant that the hole left by the needle didn’t properly self-seal in the way it does in younger corks. I’ve been in touch with Greg Lambrecht (the inventor of the device) about this and he suggested removing the capsule and waxing the top of the cork. I’ve done this quite a bit, as well as using the recently released wine-condoms to achieve a similar seal. The results have been mixed (still getting clear signs of oxidisation after a few weeks to a month in 30yr+ wines), which has led me to believe that some fresh oxygen enters the bottle around a less than optimally tight seal when pouring, rather than post-use.

So, basically, I use it on bottles with good quality corks of 15yrs age or less, and older bottles if I only intend to punch once, then drink within a week.

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I bought one a few years ago to use for tastings at the winery. I did not think it showed our wines very well (it seemed to make things tighter, meaner, and almost reductive)-I gave ours away to a distributor rep who promised to never use it on our wines.

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Wow! Your health department actually knew what a Coravin was and asked if you used one? That’s Napa vs. other places I guess. The cleaning protocol check makes sense, but I worked in a shop with an 8-bottle Wine Emotion and the inspector never even looked at it over a period of 3-4 years.

Re the cartridges… what’s their issue with proprietary vs. non?? My OCD wants to know.

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Works well in our tasting room, recent vintage wines only. I do not have one at home and have no plans to purchase. [cheers.gif]

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I have too, and not just with older wines. I’ve talked to a few people ITB who use Coravin, and the general consensus seems to be the bottle should be finished within 2-3 weeks of first access. That’s ridiculously far from their claims that you can access a bottle and then keep it aging for years. I find that some bottles outright oxidize, but far more commonly they lose a lot of aromatics and just taste tired, not correct. Not every bottle even does that (I’ve had some that are fine after months), but far too many suffer noticeable loss of aromatics for me to trust the thing at all beyond about 3 weeks. I bought it with the intention of dumping out less wine, not more. There’s a lot of disagreement on this (a few people will probably say I’m wrong), but if you search through other threads, you’ll find that people who use it most often on wines with which they’re most familiar have the same problems. I also know several very experienced tasters who were using it to stage blind tastings and no longer do for this reason.

Then there’s this

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which I have also found with some wines.

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A quick update: I had a half bottle of top Bdx '62 that I coravined a glass from 10 days ago. At the time it was fantastic - now it’s dead. I actually waxed the top at the time, which seems to have had no effect whatsoever. I’m pretty convinced that oxygen gets in along with the argon during the pour.

I’m pretty damn annoyed about this and, given the number of bottles this has happened to (every single one I’ve had for longer than a month) I can only surmise that the videos and tests that can be found online are fakes.

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Did you clear the needle with gas right before you inserted it? That’s the most important thing. Clear and insert (with the smallest time gap possible).

To an earlier comment about “kenefick”, it was an example of how we do single vineyard comparisons between producers. We’ve done kenefick ranch vineyard conparisons from hunnicutt, quivet, b cellars. We’ve done a monte rosso flight. A ToKalon flight. I can’t think of a better way to do blind flights/comparisons without holding a tasting party.

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As I posted in the Costco thread, the Chicago Lincoln Park location is having a Coravin roadshow promo on cartridges this week, 10 for $70 and 24 for $150. The Corvine is $299.

Rep says they will be hitting other stores in coming weeks, an they are running this roadshow nationwide for one month, so call your local store.

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I just bought 24 cartridges@$150 and the three needle and 2 cartridges pack for $60 at the Arlington, VA costco. You can get the same capacity cartridges without the adaptor for cheaper at Amazon.

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I agree with Hardy. I thought it almost reduced the wines a bit. Interestingly, I also found that bottles with multiple Coravin samples pulled from them that sat for a few days showed as almost decanted wines. I would not dismiss that maybe I am doing something wrong though!

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I’ve been using my coravin for about a little over a month now. The first bottle saw three uses within 2 weeks and was pretty much perfect till the 2.5 week point where I noticed the wine starting to go bad. Two other bottles that I tried the second week after my purchase started to go bad only after a few days. I had made sure to purge the needle before each use so that couldn’t have been it. Although I did notice some small bubbles coming from the cork on my last bottle, where the needle went in (after removing it)

Tbh, im kinda dumbfounded on how Parker can say this is the greatest wine product since Riedel.

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I like the device a lot and use them but it seems to have a bit of oxygen intake.

  • 1972 Labouré-Roi Clos Vougeot - France, Burgundy, Côte de Nuits, Clos Vougeot Grand Cru (11/24/2016)
    I coravined a glass a month ago. Decadent sweet red fruits, strawberry jam, stewed tomato, sous bois, light soy, sauteed mushroom, a hint of smoked meat and earth. Beautiful fully mature Burgundy palate with sweet fruit. The day before yesterday, I coravined another glass and it showed a hint of oxidation. I opened 2/3 bottle yesterday and it was clearly oxidized. FWIW. (93 pts.)

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Not a fan but I did enjoy the fact that Vila Viniteca in Barcelona had one and let me taste several high end Priorat wines before I decided which one to buy. [welldone.gif] [thankyou.gif]

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I found an alternative which has worked well for Pinot Noir or anything aromatically delicate: cruise liquor bags. For a course of opening every day for 4-5 days, it can maintain the freshness and nose of a good bottle till the last pour.