This make sense. Take the cash, wait til some of the foolish money dries up in the Howell Mountain area, re invest the $ in 40-80 hard acres, enjoy the ride up selling to the foolish $ in 2030 and beyond.
She was the Director of Winemaking at Paul Hobbs from 2006-2016.
During that time, the 2013 and 2014 To Kalon and Dr. Crane were scored 100pts by Robert Parker.
Took me ten minutes. I donāt know the internal mechanism for winemaking at PH, but I think she can lay that claim. However, these are two of the best vineyards in the world, so take from it what you will.
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And has better things to do than debunk conspiracies with the fanbois here.
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Thanks for sharing! I knew others were much better than me at finding these things 
But anyway, this doesnāt really change my skepticism about this new brand with no explanation whatsoever from āCamā. I prefer to stick to the known stuff for nowā¦
But who knows, maybe I will change my mind in the future and try some of these Eleveursā¦
with a cellar brimming with DeNegoce (and tons of other gems), I just canāt seem to muster any enthusiasm for this new ābrandā (and I agree, the labels are ugly as sin).
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I actually like the dN label lolā¦and I find it much easier to track the wines with lot numbers in my spreadsheetā¦
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Iām thinking of making up a cabernet farewell case from the bottle shop. Which of these should I include? Bottle Shop - de NĆ©goce
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Definitely N.68 imoā¦
232 and 253 also seem to have pretty good reviews but Iāve never tried themā¦I actually just bought a case with the same intention lolā¦
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Imagine this. What if the offer was for a 2021 Pritchard Hill Napa valley cab that we took grapes from a vineyard with consistent 95+ scores and routinely in the $125-175 price point and partnered with a 100 point wine maker for a custom blendā¦ā¦offered under the dN label for $25 a bottle. Only 300 casesā¦(worded with a whole bunch more hyperbole). .based on prior enthusiasm for lots 385-401 I bet it would have sold out in less than a day. I think most of us were expecting wine in the 40-60$ price point so maybe I see these early offers as Napa dN equivalents. (Maybe the higher price ones are coming) I suppose that this new brand can provide a more consistent pipeline when the market of traditional NDA is slimā¦.but it really seems like this could have just been a dN wine offshoot with a slightly higher price point ( like the black label was for CHW).
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Glen,
You may want to wait until the next dN sale. My guess is that they will keep doing these small 15% off sales on a regular basis but the larger sales like Black Friday might be worth waiting for as itās 30-40% off if I remember correctly. dN.com has 3 pages of dN wines still in inventory so it seems like 120-130 different wines still in inventory so they are going to need to lower the price closer to the original tranche 1 price to move a lot of wine.
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honestly, with a cellar bursting, itās been easier than ever to pass on offers anyway - so yeah, Iād likely pass on even that attractive offer.
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True but thatās partly a problem of their own making. Iād honestly buy 6 of these (and maybe 12) if I didnāt have 15 cases coming from summer hold and LTS. Iām full at home but have room for another 3-4 cases.
Iām really looking forward to lot 200. Im glad I held it in LTS for 2.5 yrs so I didnāt waste any bottles too young like I did other nice lots. I could have imagined having lot 200 shipped and replacing it with this 2021 wine in LTS for 2-3 yrs. But I just canāt manage 3 yrs of storage here for this current lot to mature
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Agree. There is nothing in the bottle shop that captivated me at the current price. But I acknowledge the āslave to the curing new shiny thingā tenancy. Here I am being temped by this $25 Napa offerā¦. While knowing they 68 and 17 are amazing at a slight higher price point.
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ā¦Only 300 cases made of this gem, so you may just want to jump to the buy line before itās gone.
Yeah, rightā¦12 hrs after the offer and itās still thereā¦
And the PN offer also still availableā¦ 
Whoever bought dN (or I should say, bought the dN mailing list) is probably scratching their head ādamn, this was a bad deal, I should have interacted with the WB folksā 
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I would happily buy the new labels but I canāt put it in LTS and Iām full of wine. I can afford the money, not the space. Cam delivered too much value during the vid.
Edit:
I thought my 1600-1700 capacity cellar wouldnāt be a problemā¦
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Separate but reoccurring topic - off-site storage. With the forthcoming onslaught of fall and LTS shipments, Iāve looked into a temp-controlled wine storage facility (55 degrees) here in Atlanta. The cost is roughly $6 per bottle per year for this service, technically roughly $6 per case per month.
Does this sound reasonable?
Yes, depending on the size. As for spending $6 per year storing a $20-$30 bottle of dNā¦ only after your blue chips are stored first.
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The size is unlimited, this is like a concierge service, unlimited cases (which could be trouble), you pay per case per month. I donāt need the āconciergeā part, but it is all that is available. I have coolers in my house for my blue chips, but need some place else that is not be office floor for all the young 2019-2021 wine that I own, dN and others!
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$.50/btls per year* seems very low for something like that. Especially a pay by the case.
$1 is more market price and thatās with a self-service locker that actually fits 90% of advertised, when accounting for boxes and such. Mine says 24 but unless Iām storing loose or upright bottles, the dimensions only really allow for 21.
*misread the original comment as per year, not month.
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I once had a place that stored my lot 200 case (and 10 others) for $5 for 2 years. So about $0.02 per bottle per month. I canāt figure out why the company discontinued that program?
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