De Negoce offer (Part 2)

This make sense. Take the cash, wait til some of the foolish money dries up in the Howell Mountain area, re invest the $ in 40-80 hard acres, enjoy the ride up selling to the foolish $ in 2030 and beyond.

She was the Director of Winemaking at Paul Hobbs from 2006-2016.

During that time, the 2013 and 2014 To Kalon and Dr. Crane were scored 100pts by Robert Parker.

Took me ten minutes. I don’t know the internal mechanism for winemaking at PH, but I think she can lay that claim. However, these are two of the best vineyards in the world, so take from it what you will.

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And has better things to do than debunk conspiracies with the fanbois here.

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Thanks for sharing! I knew others were much better than me at finding these things :slight_smile:

But anyway, this doesn’t really change my skepticism about this new brand with no explanation whatsoever from “Cam”. I prefer to stick to the known stuff for now…

But who knows, maybe I will change my mind in the future and try some of these Eleveurs…

with a cellar brimming with DeNegoce (and tons of other gems), I just can’t seem to muster any enthusiasm for this new “brand” (and I agree, the labels are ugly as sin).

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I actually like the dN label lol…and I find it much easier to track the wines with lot numbers in my spreadsheet…

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I’m thinking of making up a cabernet farewell case from the bottle shop. Which of these should I include? Bottle Shop - de Négoce

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Definitely N.68 imo…
232 and 253 also seem to have pretty good reviews but I’ve never tried them…I actually just bought a case with the same intention lol…

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Imagine this. What if the offer was for a 2021 Pritchard Hill Napa valley cab that we took grapes from a vineyard with consistent 95+ scores and routinely in the $125-175 price point and partnered with a 100 point wine maker for a custom blend……offered under the dN label for $25 a bottle. Only 300 cases…(worded with a whole bunch more hyperbole). .based on prior enthusiasm for lots 385-401 I bet it would have sold out in less than a day. I think most of us were expecting wine in the 40-60$ price point so maybe I see these early offers as Napa dN equivalents. (Maybe the higher price ones are coming) I suppose that this new brand can provide a more consistent pipeline when the market of traditional NDA is slim….but it really seems like this could have just been a dN wine offshoot with a slightly higher price point ( like the black label was for CHW).

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Glen,
You may want to wait until the next dN sale. My guess is that they will keep doing these small 15% off sales on a regular basis but the larger sales like Black Friday might be worth waiting for as it’s 30-40% off if I remember correctly. dN.com has 3 pages of dN wines still in inventory so it seems like 120-130 different wines still in inventory so they are going to need to lower the price closer to the original tranche 1 price to move a lot of wine.

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honestly, with a cellar bursting, it’s been easier than ever to pass on offers anyway - so yeah, I’d likely pass on even that attractive offer.

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True but that’s partly a problem of their own making. I’d honestly buy 6 of these (and maybe 12) if I didn’t have 15 cases coming from summer hold and LTS. I’m full at home but have room for another 3-4 cases.

I’m really looking forward to lot 200. Im glad I held it in LTS for 2.5 yrs so I didn’t waste any bottles too young like I did other nice lots. I could have imagined having lot 200 shipped and replacing it with this 2021 wine in LTS for 2-3 yrs. But I just can’t manage 3 yrs of storage here for this current lot to mature

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Agree. There is nothing in the bottle shop that captivated me at the current price. But I acknowledge the “slave to the curing new shiny thing” tenancy. Here I am being temped by this $25 Napa offer…. While knowing they 68 and 17 are amazing at a slight higher price point.

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…Only 300 cases made of this gem, so you may just want to jump to the buy line before it’s gone.

Yeah, right…12 hrs after the offer and it’s still there…
And the PN offer also still available… :roll_eyes:

Whoever bought dN (or I should say, bought the dN mailing list) is probably scratching their head “damn, this was a bad deal, I should have interacted with the WB folks” :joy:

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I would happily buy the new labels but I can’t put it in LTS and I’m full of wine. I can afford the money, not the space. Cam delivered too much value during the vid.

Edit:
I thought my 1600-1700 capacity cellar wouldn’t be a problem…

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Separate but reoccurring topic - off-site storage. With the forthcoming onslaught of fall and LTS shipments, I’ve looked into a temp-controlled wine storage facility (55 degrees) here in Atlanta. The cost is roughly $6 per bottle per year for this service, technically roughly $6 per case per month.

Does this sound reasonable?

Yes, depending on the size. As for spending $6 per year storing a $20-$30 bottle of dN… only after your blue chips are stored first.

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The size is unlimited, this is like a concierge service, unlimited cases (which could be trouble), you pay per case per month. I don’t need the “concierge” part, but it is all that is available. I have coolers in my house for my blue chips, but need some place else that is not be office floor for all the young 2019-2021 wine that I own, dN and others!

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$.50/btls per year* seems very low for something like that. Especially a pay by the case.

$1 is more market price and that’s with a self-service locker that actually fits 90% of advertised, when accounting for boxes and such. Mine says 24 but unless I’m storing loose or upright bottles, the dimensions only really allow for 21.

*misread the original comment as per year, not month.

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I once had a place that stored my lot 200 case (and 10 others) for $5 for 2 years. So about $0.02 per bottle per month. I can’t figure out why the company discontinued that program?

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