De Negoce offer (Part 1)

WINE TALK
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Same as Peter. Received $29 invoice for shipping for the #8.

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Anxious to see what happens with 2019 vintages. 2018 was big, so plenty to sell.

Experienced Sonoma winemaker Nancy Walker was jubilant about 2018. “The quality is exceptional and the harvest will be 25% to 33% above average.”

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The shipping mistake was an honest mistake. I had no problem paying the $29 when emailed.

Re 2019; I’m more curious to see how many more damn 2017/2018 Napa Cabs he is going to offer??? Is it going to be a wine a week? Would be nice to know what the pipeline looks like so don’t over order.

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Upcoming releases, assuming they are released in numerical order…
#9 is Pinot Noir.
#10 is, I believe, rose.
#12 is Chardonnay.
#15 is Merlot.
#16 is Pinot.
#18 is Malbec.
#19 is Pinot.

Wonder if the Cab-heavy lineup in any way represents a bigger market truth, i.e. there’s a lot of unsold premium Cabernet out there?

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Nate how did you figure that out? Somehow on the website? Very impressive, lol.

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Offer 8 still up. First one that has not sold out.

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Gotta think the people interested in these have long ago exhausted their desire for “cabernet by the case I’ve never tasted”. I mean each is basically the same ($10-$15 price point for $50-$100 value). Hard to distinguish for the casual wine drinker like myself.

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I hereby predict offer #10 it will be a rose at $108/case

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Not a prediction when that’s already known lol

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That’s where I am. I bought the first two. The next one I buy has to be really compelling.

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Yah I don’t know what he could do differently (in Cabernet) besides go higher priced cause they all sound the same to me, lol. But I bought all the Cabernet’s thus far.

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Maybe different AVAs? We have been holding out for something higher elevation.

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Maybe it’s silly, but American oak chased me away from #8.

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Ever try Silver Oak Cabernet? They use all American Oak

This is the make up for OG 8:

81% Mt. Veeder
19% St. Helena

79% Cabernet Sauvignon
12% Merlot
5% Malbec
3% Petite Verdot
1% Cabernet Franc

50% new French and American oak
50% seasoned cooperage
14.4% Alc.

Some American Oak is actually seasoned in Europe. Winemakers these days are working with many cooperages, while the thought of exclusivity using fine grained French Oak for Cabernet is changing. I’m seeing this in other parts of the world as well where I source. Just a thought to consider…

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Received email today offer #1 shipping next week. Also offer to hold until Oct. for additional $5. No brained for me.

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I asked about the style I as don’t often associate big & rich with Mt. Veeder fruit.

The vineyard is south-facing and near Carneros. Was assured this is big, chewy, robust Cabernet.

I appreciate their honesty.

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https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/publicSearchColasAdvancedProcess.do?action=search

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Clever! [cheers.gif]

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very

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“Ever try Silver Oak Cabernet? They use all American Oak.”

Yes, I have tried it and once was enough. I do, however, appreciate your comments Lloyd. Perhaps I need to be more open minded.