So I searched the ZIP Code that house you pointed out was nearby. There were four sales last year above $2 million. There were some pretty cool amazing houses. Really good architecture and beautiful homes. All lacking Wine cellars
That’s not where I live, it’s just somewhat close to where I live.
That house won’t sell no matter what they put in it because of the exposure. It’s very close to the road and there aren’t any trees.
I don’t think putting in a wine cellar is a selling point, btw, just seems to be something people add at a certain price point.
Btw there are pretty neat houses nearby the powers run house. This one is cool, and doesn’t have a wine cellar, but you might recognize it from the movies (love and other drugs)
Can’t even imagine what that’d cost if it were in Santa Monica.
Oh btw, my house had a wine cellar when we bought it and it wasn’t in the listing photos, so unless it’s a really fancy one, it may not be pictured.
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That is a Cool House.
We should do an event there 
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After a certain number of sqft don’t you just have to decide whether you want 7th bedroom or bathroom and start adding other sh#T.
A pool table is always a good idea too!
Yeah, I mean, you make rooms bigger to some point; I imagine after about 8000 sq/ft or something you don’t gain much more by increasing the square footage unless you have an enormous ballroom or something.
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I’m sorry is this the Zillow thread ?
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Appears Redfin… 
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Is it me or does the US market seem to be picking up for Bordeaux? A lot of the back vintage offers I’ve received that are competitively priced seem to be disappearing instantly. I am also having a harder time finding the same prices I was buying at over the prior 12 months.
I am seeing more well-informed voices suggest that in the next few weeks/months we may very well be looking at a situation that dwarfs the 2008 Great Recession in its broad economic impact. If that is the case, you will be able to find plenty of discounted wines.
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This is anecdotal and I’m not implying it’s indicative of any larger trends. I’m in an area of the country where there’s not a lot of Bordeaux (Portland, OR), and I buy 99% of all the wine I consume from local stores. In the last year or more, my local Trader Joe’s is carrying a lot “real” Bordeaux as opposed to just having their own private labeled Bordeaux. 2020 Meyney for $35, 2020 Cantermerle for $33, 2015 Laroque for $30. Good prices for this area (not sure how that compares nationally). Not high end collectibles certainly, but good everyday drinkers that will also age. I take TJ’s carrying these wines to be part of the softer market where there’s a ton of Bordeaux that isn’t selling in normal channels. But again, I don’t buy a ton of Bordeaux and Portland isn’t a big Bordeaux market, so I’m not sure this is indicative of larger trends.
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So you are saying I should be more concerned with rebalancing my portfolio than I should be about the price of 2008 Ducru-Beaucaillou?
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I am also in a part of the country where there’s not a lot of Bordeaux (Maine).
Those look like good prices to me. I don’t get Meyney selling for more than Cantemerle. Laroque looks like a very good price for something approaching a nice drinking window.
I’m keeping my powder dry. These are the kind of Bordeaux that I used to drink regularly, if vintages with some bottle age show up at good prices, I’m in.
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That’s what I thought too, but I’m happy with both, but it’s painful if I think I bought 1979 Meyney for $5.99.
Also, a year ago it was 2020 Clos Rene at $42, 2020 Grand Puy Ducasse at $39, and 2020 Ormes de Pez at $32. Those all sold slower, but the current selections seems to moving better. Maybe sub $40 is more the TJ’s market.
HDH auction this week seemed to show (pretty clearly) that we’re back on the upswing with regards to wine pricing/values. So many wines went above estimate I was floored……
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The 2020 Cantemerle is a lovely wine. Needs more time than the 19 though.
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Agreed, the HDH auction pricing was shockingly High.a case of 14 raveneau MDT hammered for 10k.
That may be the case, but I will point out that my local higher end Trader Joe’s has gone the other direction in the last year or two. They used to always have a half dozen or so legit Bordeaux in the $25-70 price range (e.g. Lagrange, d’Issan, Sociando Mallet), and now they don’t have any at all.
So it may just be a decision the individual store makes based on what is and isn’t moving, how much they care about having those kinds of wines, etc.
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It may also depend on which wholesalers in any given region are motivated to move out older stocks. Most mid-level 2020 red Bordeaux are painfully young to drink, but painfully old as cash-flow wines for distributors who bought them three years ago.
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