Champs, '89 Ducru Beaucaillou, '92 Margaux, '83 Lafite, Etc.

Took a break from taking down wine notes for over a week, and am now ready to start anew. Yesterday’s lunch (10th March) for 6 persons was at Toki, a very good and reasonably priced Japanese restaurant a few minutes’ drive from my office.

The theme of the lunch, curiously enough was “over-the-hill”, i.e., bring wines that, in your opinion, may be over the hill. Strange. Not my idea. I had told Bernd and J-Lab much earlier that I’d just bring bubbly or white (not over the hill) considering we’d be having Japanese cuisine. I just couldn’t bear the thought of opening an aged red for pairing with the sushi, tempura and cold udon I intended on eating (I generally don’t eat chicken at all, and don’t really order any beef in Japanese restaurants unless I’m with my children - in which case, steak teppanyaki is a forgone conclusion).

I arrived late due to the traffic and was welcomed by a chilled glass of…

Duval-Leroy Champagne Rosé de Saignée Brut NV - from Bernd, which I also had with my starter of assorted nigiri sushi (I can’t remember the price of this item, but it was very affordable, good and quite generous in size, as one can see). This was quite a visually attractive rosé bubbly, with exuberant frothiness in the mouth and a discreet strawberry and raspberry dominance over red beet, currant, with ever-so-slight nuances of rhubarb and caraway seed (especially towards the back). Very pleasant, pleasingly straightforward. Definitely a nice start for lunch.

As regards the pairing, the red fruit, I felt, interfered with the flavors of the fresh fish. Better off with a dry white bubbly, in my opinion. No problem, though, I just drank it before continuing with my sushi.

With my main course of Ebi Tempura with Cold Udon (it is summer after all), though reds already started pouring, I mainly had…

1999 Duval-Leroy Champagne Blanc de Chardonnay - My bottle. I first tried this 100% chardonnay-based bubbly as an apéritif on the 10th December 2008 at home, the bottle then from Bernd. My notes on that bottle were as follows:

This bubbly was open, generous and particularly lively, with a fine, persistent mousse and delightfully pronounced toasty brioche to its whitely floral, ripe apple, slight apricot profiles. Whispers of candied fruit, white minerality and oak as well. In a fuller style than most blanc de blancs I’ve had, I could have sworn it wasn’t pure chardonnay, but, then, no champagne expert am I. An excellent way to start the evening, in any event, it was wonderful with the terrine of foie gras.

The bottle at the subject lunch, however, seemed more typically blanc de blancs, dominated by apple, bread, yeast, bit of grapefruit, showing toastiness and brioche mainly past mid-mouth, encouraged with a bit of a “gargle”. Notably tight (as also noted by J-Lab) compared to my previous taste of it. Nicely dry with good edge and cut. A subsequent pour that was allowed to sit for a while showed marginally more openness, depth and complexity and a finish touched with hints of spiced dark fruitcake.

The Reds

1989 Château Ducru Beaucaillou - Keiichi’s bottle, from a château and appellation he personally favors. Ducru Beaucaillou is a 2nd Growth from St-Julien, a town I’ve both visited and driven through quite a few times. 1989, in my opinion, is a very good vintage, more classically austere and masculine than the ripely sweetish and materially more fruit-driven, approachable and hyped 1990 (which I also like, make no mistake, I’m just making general vintage comparisons here).

I’ve stated before that I’m no big fan of the wines of this château, considering that in those of its bretheren 2nd Growth St-Juliens I find more contemplation and depth (Léoville las Cases) and more over-all pleasure at a lower price range (Léoville Poyferré and Gruaud Larose). That said, I readily recognize the marked harmony, silkiness, quiet dark-gravelly depth of Ducru Beaucaillou’s terroir-driven wines.

This wine had a reticent bouquet, grudgingly giving up slight whiffs of Spanish cedar, dark fruit and tobacco leaf. In the mouth, however, it was much more expressive. Typical Ducru Beaucaillou on a silky, medium body, with somber dark fruit infused with dark minerals, gravel, light touches of tar, tobacco and hint of spice box. Very reserved and proper, if a bit faded. Despite a barely medium finish that ended a bit abruptly, the admirable harmony and depth in its flavors made for quite a pleasurable drink.

1992 Château Margaux - The Stockbroker’s bottle. An 1855 1st Growth from an appellation of the same name and, quite possibly, Bordeaux’s very worst vintage of the 1990s (ignominously rivaled only by 1991). The only other 1992 that I can recall ever having tried was a slightly TCA-infected '92 La Fleur Pétrus, which is a Pomerol, not from the Médoc, so I can make no fair, first-hand generalization of the vintage.

This wine had an alluringly perfumed, feminine bouquet (which Margaux wines are known for) of aged cedar, dark and exotically sweetish spices, bit of old-pressed violets (but none of decay) and a hint of pruniness in its molten dark fruit. The bouquet, however, was the best the wine had (left?) to give, as it was sadly thin and diffuse on the palate - giving up more drying cedar than any fruit or ghosts thereof.

Truly over the hill, in line with the lunch’s theme. Good to be able to try it, though. The opportunity was much appreciated.

1983 Château Lafite Rothschild - Again, from the Stockbroker, another 1855 1st Growth, this time from Pauillac. Very mature, and just a shade over the hill - hands down, the best red of the lunch.

What this wine gave up in perfumed allure to the '92 Margaux (a refined, suavely masculine Pauillac bouquet), the former more than made up for in the mouth with elegant balance and texture, deeply-veined, layered dark fruit, cassis, mere whispers of licorice, violets, tobacco and intricately woven sweet cedar. Not somber like the Ducru Beaucaillou, and not as earthy, though still expressive of its terroir. More living fruit in this.

Much, much nicer than than the '83 Lynch Bages and '83 Latour, in my opinion. Very likely the best '83 I’ve ever had, just edging out, to me, the '83 Palmer (though this comparison, I recognize, is tenuous at best since the '83 Palmer is a delicately feminine Margaux as opposed to this decidedly masculine Pauillac, however refined and suave the latter may be). Beautiful wine.

The reds done, J-Lab ensured we ended on a sweet note with a…

2006 Dr. Loosen Riesling Beerenauslese - J-Lab’s bottle, one he shared during a mid-September 2008 lunch at Je Suis Gourmand. My notes then were as follows:

2006 Dr. Loosen Riesling Beerenauslese (Mosel-Saar-Ruwer) - Medium-sweet with healthy balancing acidity that rejuventated my palate. Fresh, bright, friendly notes of cling peach, orange rind, honeysuckle, white mineral and a honeyed, vaguely melony/grapey theme that reminded me a lot of a sweet muscat-based dessert wine from Mondavi that I tried there in May 2006 - go figure. This was much better though.

Playfully entertaining wine with a lot of charm. Very easy to drink. Honest, no pretenses to contemplative depth or complexity - it does its job as a dessert wine, and plenty well enough. The botrytis tang/spice is there, but very delicate. Nicely crafted wine.

I only add now that there seemed to be just the slightest hint of playful spritz in this that added yet another bright and happy dimension to the wine. Very nice indeed.

Again, many thanks to all who generously shared their wines, and, more importantly, their company, which, hopefully, will never go over the hill.

Super notes. We sometimes do, as part of one of my tasting notes, a “skeletons tasting” (in October of course) for people who have wines that may be OTH. Normally people bring their OTH wine and another wine of high caliber so the teasing does not get out of hand (unlike here on WB).

We’ve been surprised by some expected OTH bottlings that have shown quite well.

I agree with you on no reds for Japanese food, or even bubblies with red character. Dry whites wuold be best wine wise. I normally just go with sake in a Japanese restaurant. I love sake, it goes with the food and it a great excuse to dive into some great sakes.

When out and about for Japanese food, I also pretty much stick to sake. I only have wine with Japanese food when out with my wine group(s). I believe that, while some dry whites and bubblies may go well enough with sushi, sashimi, etc., sake always feels more “correct”/“proper” to me. My brother (who studied in Japan) and his wife (Japanese) usually have beer with sushi and sashimi, but I very rarely do (not that I really drink beer to begin with).

Re: your “skeletons tasting”, a friend of mine (a wine producer in Margaux) and some of his groupmates in Bdx (most of whom also are wine producers) hold a somewhat similar kind of tasting every once in a while. They spend an evening tasting through the worst vintages of Bdx. I tease that friend that they are searching out “the cream of the crap”.

Very interesting on the 92 Margaux. I haven’t had any 1992’s from Bordeaux but i wanted to read your note on the Margaux. Doesn’t sound like there is much hope there for the 1992’s.

In my extremely limited experience with '92 Bdx, I doubt there’s much hope.

For whatever it’s worth, my notes on the '92 La Fleur Pétrus are quoted below (dinner, 4th July 2008):




1992 Château La Fleur-Pétrus - I think this bottle from Pomerol was mildly tainted with TCA (i.e., 2,4,6-Trichloroanisole) - mildly “corked” - I say “mildly” because it did not exhibit any musty or “old cardboard” notes; rather, it seemed like the fruit and push were being masked/bound/held back by some invisible force that smelled vaguely of tin and plastic.

One could just catch a fleeting glimpse of what the wine could be or have been beneath that invisible ceiling, so I asked that the wine be set aside for later and proceeded to enjoy the dish.

The wine eventually opened up , but much more in the mouth than in the nose. By the time I had forayed into the next course, the wine’s medium-bodied, earthy, broodingly dark plum/black fruit/dark cherry/black coffee/anise/vanilla-oak flavors had gained marginal breadth and power, but it could simply not fully break free of its spell of binding.

A little off topic, but I have had enormous problems with decanters made in these kinds of shapes:





If, during washing, any soap bubbles [at all] make their way down into the decanter, then, because it is impossible to get a cloth in there, the soap bubbles will dry on the interior of the glass, and the next wine you put in there will come out tasting corked.

This is true even if you try to wash these things with sudsy ammonia.

[Recently I saw a non-sudsy ammonia at Walmart, but that’s the only store in our area which carries it.]

Anyway, I have given up on decanters in those shapes, and would only decant into something like a pitcher or a cylindrical beaker which could be cleaned properly before receiving the wine:





Beyond that, if I wanted extended aeration, then I’d just Audouze it.

Ok. Good for you.

Not a problem for us since we have maids who are trained to clean our stemware and decanters properly.

Man, I miss the Philippines.

Yes, kabayan, some people have absolutely no idea what life can be like here.

N

I can’t tell whether you’re joking or whether you’re serious, but just in case you’re serious, my point is that I don’t think it’s even theoretically possible to clean a decanter of this geometry [short of introducting some really exotic & potentially dangerous compounds, and even then, I’m still dubious].

Remember, you can taste these kinds of contaminants in parts per trillion [and if you’re a really good taster, maybe even in parts per ten trillion].

No, I’m not joking.

Yes, I believe you are dubious.

Nathan,

How about flushing it out numerous times with just lots of really hot water? I have one of those decanters but haven’t really used it.

Put in dishwasher. Only fill the first cup with soap. Run on a full cycle. You get about 8 clean water rinses. I’ve never had a problem doing this, handwashing tends to yield one soapy glass now and again that just wasn’t rinsed well enough.


I wash my Riedel decanters, Sommelier glasses and vinum glasses. Perfect every time. And after 10 years you cannot tell a new glass from one that I’ve had for a decade.

Okay, call me naive, but I’ve never heard of a dishwasher that didn’t leave soap stains.

Beyond that, my experience with these weird geometries is that once a little soap stain gets in there, then NOTHING will get it out.

No amount of rinsing or chemicals or trying desperately to force in a little piece of cloth on the end of a stick or anything at all that I’ve ever been able to think of.

A dried soap bubble in some way mimics the flavor or scent of TCA?

Soap stains on the decanter or in the stemware will [more or less instantaneously] turn a profound wine into a corked wine.

This makes no sense to me. Where does the TCA come from? And you’re saying the wine will instantaneously dissolve soap stains that couldn’t be dissolved by repeated exposures to warm water? And instantaneously disperse it through 750 ml of wine?

i use those decanter beads and really hot water

And that further the soap (or, more accurately, detergent) molecules will somehow bond with the chlorine in the local water supply to form TCA? I don’t think so.

Sorry Nathan, I don’t know where you’re getting your ideas, but this is crap. I’ve successfully washed stems and decanters in the dishwasher for 15 years and further have used a mild solution of Cascade and water to remove stains from decanters. With sufficient rinsing there are no issues at all. None. Zero. Zip. Nada.

Disagree. Ive had plenty of wines in a soapy glassware. Just pour the wine into a clean glass and the problem is solved.