If you had to choose between the Caymus SS 2010 or Paul Hobbs Beckerstoffer Las Piedras 2010 which one would you put your money on?
I just tried the Caymus and it was very good.
Caymus gets dissed by a lot of people on these boards and others but the SS can be stellar and it has a solid track record for aging. No surprise.
Thanks for the input.
Can anyone comment that has tried the Paul Hobbs Beckerstoffer?
Different palates – Different choices. Caymus does have that Silver Oak/Opus One reputation; many feel the QPR is not there.
Caymus gets dissed for good reason. Its simply not that good! Our blind tastings have exposed the SS as being mediocre in its price point.
No idea about the Hobbs, but every Caymus SS I’ve ever had was essentially a very highly priced pancake syrup.
Thanks. I also found the SS to be somewhat too sweet. Its expensive for the production amount.
I have had Hobbs Dr. Crane and ToKalon but not Piedras. Depends on the year but generally SS would be a close second IMHO but I think Piedras slotted behind Dr. Crane and ToKalon. Safe play is SS and adventuresome is Piedras if you must choose.
Yeah, haven’t had las piedras from Hobbs, but would likely check it out over SS.
Las Piedras was probably the vineyard of the vintage for Napa in 2010 from what I could tell from tasting barrel samples.
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The 1990 and 1995 are some of the best Cali Cabs I have EVER had.
What I meant to say is for the amount of bottles produced the SS is expensive.
I think I’m going to buy a bottle of the Hobbs Las Piedras and one bottle of Hundred Acre Ark 2010, I haven’t had either.
Again, how does quantity produced relate to it being expensive?
Simply that at a high production level, scarcity is no longer a factor to help drive up the price. It seems intuitive to me that it would be harder to sell through 20,000 cases of a $150 wine than to sell through 500 cases of a $150 wine. I am surprised they are able to sell all of that wine at that price. To me, that equates to it seeming expensive.
I’ve had both. Hobbs Las Piedras is on an entirely different level. Makes the SS seem like an ordinary restaurant cab in my opinion.
I agree with what Eric said, seems to me that high production shouldn’t equal high prices $120+ per bottle. It also seems like Caymus is going the way of Silver Oak, available at your local corner liquor store.
I picked up a bottle of Hobbs Beckerstoffer to Dr. Crane and Hundred acre ark both 2010. I’m waiting for the Hobbs Las Piedras to be released and I will purchase a bottle or two.
Has anyone tried the Hobbs Stagecoach? If so any tasting notes or opinion?
I don’t know when SS went off the rails, and I don’t have a ton of experience with it- but last ones I tried a couple years ago, the 1995, 96 and 97- were all really good. Not sweet at all, so no “pancake syrup”. The 97 was surprisingly good- considering the reviews.
Moet Chandon sells millions of bottles of Dom Perignon at well over that price point without issue.
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