Fuzzy Pussy is always tops as long as it is allowed to open up and breathe
Regarding the oxidation, Jadot was using the silicone-coated corks.
As far as the reds go, I only ever tried the young & young-ish reds, but none of them were any good.
I’m open to the possibility that they improve [substantially?] with age, but as young wines, they were somewhere down around boring/disappointing to DNPIM.
Good to hear. The silence on this particular bottling was starting to become deafening.
Not a lot of folks can find or afford it.
I also see what Alan Weinberg did there: He misspelled ‘palette’.
Dan Kravitz
Damn—you’re right. Thought it looked funny.
A more detailed and serious reply, covering what I know.
Jadot makes so many different wines that it would be hard to become an expert on them.
The Moulin-a-Vent ‘Chateau des Jacques’ can be great wine at 10 years. Been there, done that. Snobs, geeks and even honest disagreements welcomed. AFAIK that is the only Moulin-a-Vent that they make and I am very sure that they don’t make 100,000 cases. The property has 200 acres spread across 6 Appellations. I would guess Moulin-a-Vent at under 25,000 cases, sometimes spread across different bottlings. I’ve found Rochgres the best, with Carquelin also sometimes excellent.
The whites at the top level have been a disaster of premox. OTOH, at the entry level, even the Bourgogne Blanc can be very good. The Pouilly Fuisse is consistent, although IMO not really that much better than the Bourgogne. The only other white I’ve had relatively recently is excellent but probably tiny production: Pernand Clos de la Croix de Pierre. Santenay Clos de la Malte is also a rare value. A 2008 Corton Charlie was great in 2012, but I wouldn’t bet on it now. A couple of 2003 Batards: One good at 5, one comatose at 8.
For reds, the few times I’ve had the Bourgogne Rouge it’s been of poor quality. After that it gets a lot better. The red Pernand Clos de la Croix de Pierre is fine and outstanding value. Ditto Santenay Clos de la Malte.
After that it gets better. Haven’t had the Beaune ‘Cras’, but will look. Beaune ‘Avaux’ has been a go-to for me for decades (one of my first great aged wines was a 1947, consumed in the 70’s). Their Monopole 'Clos des Ursules should be a Grand Cru. YMMV but I’m sticking to this one. There is not a Jadot wine from Beaune I won’t happily try.
I’ve had good to great wines from Bonnes Mares, Pommard Rugiens (not as good as Courcel IMO), Gevrey Clos St Jacques, Corton Pougets, Clos St. Denis, Romanee St Vivant.
In brief:
I’ll try any Jadot red if it’s of interest, good vintage, good provenance, right price… and I’ll expect to be pleased.
I’ll try any Jadot white ditto, as long as it’s not much more than 5 years.
Overall a consistently good to excellent producer, despite their size, offering a huge range at fair prices.
Dan Kravitz
I never see anything but the Macon/Beaujolais wines here whereas I see a fair amount of Latour, Bouchard and Drouhin wines around. I don t think I ve ever drunk a bottle of Cote d Or Jadot wine.
Sometimes I think the strategy of some companies is to sell the good stuff in New York.
thread drift but W Coast has been shit on forever for allocations. You are exactly right. Internet helped even it out a bit.
That is certainly what has happened to much of what used to be the Diageo portfolio. Kudos to Terlato for honoring the old relationships on Ramonet, but for the rest of the Diageo wines that I ever cared about- Texas is now a secondary consideration at best.
But to be fair, US allocations on so many things have been cut so drastically that in many instances I find it hard to fault this strategy. It is unfortunate, and it sucks, but when it comes to a point where single bottles are being allocated to stores- then it just becomes nonsensical to continue that exercise. I am not aware of this with Jadot wines on quite that scale- those are almost always allocated in OWCs/OCBs to my knowledge (be it 12s or 6s)- but it has been quite a while since a few of the gems like Clos St. Denis found their way here.
Premier Cru used to sell a bunch of Jadot! 
sell: To transfer goods in exchange for money.
Under this definition, I don’t think you can state that Premier Cru sold a lot of Jadot. The money part, sure. The problems arose with the ‘transfer of goods’ part.
Dan Kravitz
I have purchased Jadot from Envoyer over the years.
A wholesaler warned me about Premier Cru in the '80s. So I was spared that experience.
Anyone tried the 2015 Louis Jadot Les Narbantons, SAVIGNY-LES-BEAUNE PREMIER CRU, FRANCE. I’m thinking about putting a few away.
Sometimes I think the strategy of some companies is to sell the good stuff in New York.
That is generally true, as CA is often seen as having a bias towards the local stuff, outside of the Bay Area. I was told that you used south Cal to get rid of the stuff you couldn’t move on the east because it wouldn’t hurt your brand elsewhere. When I was in San Diego for the first time a few years ago, lo and behold, I saw familiar stuff on clearance in one of those discount stores.
Don’t know if that’s a universal strategy, but in the past it was. There are still stores that don’t carry much from the US. But given that you always had access to the best, you were one of the lucky few!
+1
We get a good selection of Jadot wines in New Mexico but I quit buying the whites about 5 years ago and only buy reds from them.
Has anyone tried 10+ years-old white GCs from Jadot?
I bought 2002 Chevalier-Montrachet Les Demoiselles & 2005 Montrachet last month. After that, I learned that Jadot is notorious for premox and realized that I am playing a lottery with pretty low chance of winning.
Any suggestion will be appreciated, thanks!
Bryan, Burgundy is no different than the pursuit of the Holy Grail, however for this journey you purchase a good book, you can start simple, basic, Kevin Zraley’s - Windows on the World - great introduction, or you can get more serious, with Clive Coates - Cote D’OR, and you read and you taste… and you taste and taste and taste and you keep good notes…
I do not know you and what you’ve tasted or learned.
It is a wonderful journey,
Burgundy is so much more expensive to find the Excellent quality, so many unreliable bottles, vintages, so undependable - shameful…
I should state I’m a burgundy man, and a wine professional, but the Bordeaux is so much more reliable.
a really nice enjoyable bottle of Bordeaux for $25 - $30 you can find
Burgundy, what a challenge, You’ve got to find a good store you can trust to work with
as you go up every $10 - $20 your quality should go up… in Bordeaux - it will,
in Burgundy, it is a total guess…but a guide can help…
at $50 - $90 you can find some great Bordeaux, I’ve done a poor job of communicating if I’ve given the impression I am directing you away from Burgundy for Bordeaux - that would be like Steak or Lobster…
Burgundy, who knows…
good luck and remember it is supposed to be fun…
many people who know Burgundy stay away from negociant produced bottles…